British Columbia: Public input sought on hunting regulation changes

45ACPKING said:
I see that the NDP is moving fast to ruin hunting in british columbia.
I also see that these regulations are pure bullsh*te and will do nothing but increase poaching.
Was out ice fishin today with a rather large group of 100 mile house locals and the entire group pretty much agreed that if they move ahead with all these bogus restrictions based on sentiment from anti hunting groups...... they are just gonna get thier deer regardless.

There is a very large pecentage of long time rural hunters that are becoming very jaded with the stupid decisions based on politics and not animal numbers. There are loads of deer around these parts. The populations are very healthy. Heck even the moose populations in many parts of region 5 have rebounded quite nicely but have learned to avoid the roads. I found many bulls out late season mulie hunting, bulls that seemed to easily survive the fires and hunting season LOL

Here in BC we are about to be hit with the largest anti hunting push we have ever faced. I'm having none of it.
the only hunts i want to see changed/end are Cow and Calf moose hunts province wide and all Bull hunts changed to mature bulls only, No spikers. The region 5 rut closure that was done to favor the BC guide industry and I want to see an abrupt end to the Youth Doe season.
and that's it..... oh wait..... I want to see black bear hunting on haida gwaii returned to it's pre christy clarke status and I want to see Grizzly bear conservation hunting put back into practice.
I would also Like to see an immediate end to foreign ownership and employment in the BC hunting and sportsfishing guiding industry as well as NO foreign ownership or employment in Wildlife viewing industry.

that's it haha
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I truly believe all this to be 100% correct.
The outsiders moving in should be a concern to all.
They will buy up guide areas and cater to their brethren.
Then it will turn into a private hunting camp such as which is
happening to some lakes.
Private access only.
 
'Boo said:
On another note ...................

While there are no wild or feral hogs on Vancouver Island apparently there are turkeys. Just like hogs on the mainland - if the regulation passes - there will no bag limits or closed seasons for V.I. turkeys. Sort of makes up for the whole Grizzly fiasco eh? ;)
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Why would there be no season or limit on turkey on the island?


Jealous of you guys out west as it's been a few years since we could buy additional tags where I hunt. One deer is our limit and likely will be for a while.
 
canadian hunter312 said:
Why would there be no season or limit on turkey on the island?
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kamlooky said:
I truly believe all this to be 100% correct.
The outsiders moving in should be a concern to all.
They will buy up guide areas and cater to their brethren.
Then it will turn into a private hunting camp such as which is
happening to some lakes.
Private access only.
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yup, this is exactly what's happening. Most fishing resorts around the hwy 24 corridor have been purchased by private groups, mostly wealthy europeans. They have closed the businesses and turned them into private retreats. No doubt happening to hunting territories in canada as well.
 
'Boo said:
One major change:
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Seems only fair to include the rationale for the change:

Rationale:
Hunting pressure in Regions 3 and 8 has increased ~25% between 2011 and 2015 (2015: 18,500+ hunters in Region 3, 12,700+ hunters in Region 8), combined with other influences on mule deer populations, such as excessive and increasing road density, reduced habitat quality and predation, which has resulted in declining buck ratios in some areas and/or buck ratios below the provincial performance measure (i.e., 20 bucks/100 does post-hunt) in other areas. Currently, Regions 3 and 8 support ~55% of the interior mule deer hunters and ~60% of the interior mule deer harvest. Ways to redirect or distribute hunting pressure and harvests are required. Large areas in Regions 3 and 8 are currently very near or below provincial buck/doe targets and a proactive approach is necessary to maintain current levels of hunter opportunity in the regions as opposed to attempting to recover from widespread buck ratios below the objective with more drastic season restrictions in the near future. Harvest reductions in both Regions 3 and 8 are expected to be 5-15% and the proposed change is expected to have a significant reduction in hunting pressure as well. Alternative measures, such as restricted seasons (November closures, rut closures, limited entry hunts, etc.) are not the preferred way of addressing this issue as they will concentrate hunters, cause similar restrictions in all regions in the southern interior and be very difficult to get back in the future.


I will need to look into this more before I pass broad judgement on it.
 
Rugdoc said:
Come on, prove antis have been buying LEH cards.
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There are a few misguided soles (I actually met one) that do purchase LEH cards but they are no good unless they 'win'. Why bother with the nickel & dime stuff when you can purchase whole hunting territories then shut it down to hunting.
 
StoneHorse said:
There are a few misguided soles (I actually met one) that do purchase LEH cards but they are no good unless they 'win'. Why bother with the nickel & dime stuff when you can purchase whole hunting territories then shut it down to hunting.
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Guiding territories in BC are not for the exclusive use of the owners. I, as a BC resident, have the right to hunt everywhere on BC crown land that I can get my ass to. The exceptions are timber and mineral harvesting areas that have restrictive access right granted to them by the province under the guise of "public safety".

Also, if a guiding territory is not used for it's intended purpose the rights will revert to the crown who can resell it.
 
'Boo said:
Guiding territories in BC are not for the exclusive use of the owners. I, as a BC resident, have the right to hunt everywhere on BC crown land that I can get my ass to. The exceptions are timber and mineral harvesting areas that have restrictive access right granted to them by the province under the guise of "public safety".

Also, if a guiding territory is not used for it's intended purpose the rights will revert to the crown who can resell it.
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I should have clarified my post by referring to guiding territories. Yes, you are correct. You, me and any other BC resident are not excluded from hunting these areas.
My concerns are antis groups buying up guiding licenses and sitting on them. I have little faith in a NDP government forcing these people into the "intended use" of the license. What is even more alarming is native bands buying up guiding operations and using it for their own purposes; to the exclusion of everyone else in the province. You know, part of their "traditional territory."
 
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Rugdoc said:
Come on, prove antis have been buying LEH cards.
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I can prove it to you right now. Come for a drive to region 5-1 and I'll introduce you to my neighbor. My phucktard neighbor beside the house i just bought last year told me straight to my face he puts draws in every year. So I pressed for some hunting stories and he looked at me and laughed and matter of factly told me he didn't hunt.
I guess next time i should record him saying that and show it to the CO but figure there is no penalty for such behavior.
anyone who thinks there aren't 100's if not 1000's of people out there willfully messing with british columbia's resident hunting system is down right blind to simple truths.
 
Who cares if non hunters are buying tags? You get the benefit of revenue from license sales without more hunters on the ground killing said game. Less hunters, more game. Should we not be encouraging non hunters to purchase tags?



Boo, those huge domestic turkeys have escaped and turned feral? Are there wild turkey out there?
 
Are they increasing the R4 deer bag limit to 3? The chart seems to say 2 WT and 1 MD for a regional bag limit of 3. The synopsis currently says the aggregate limit is 2. Or a mistake in their chart?
 
canadian hunter312 said:
Who cares if non hunters are buying tags? You get the benefit of revenue from license sales without more hunters on the ground killing said game. Less hunters, more game. Should we not be encouraging non hunters to purchase tags?
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Interesting thought process you have ch312.
So just suppose the wardens/co's or whatever they are called now a days finds these folks and
garners them LEH success?
It's a win win for all except those that hunt?

I'm curious to know how they decide whom wins on LEH's?
Oh, I like this name.
This name is suckie............trash.

I replied to a letter sent to me with a nasty edge to it.
Next LEH I was successful.
Coincident?
Doubt it.

Fill yer bewts folks...............while you can.
 
^ one area I hunt has had the same group win a group LEH moose hunt for three years in a row now, yet many of us apply.
 
canadian hunter312 said:
Who cares if non hunters are buying tags? You get the benefit of revenue from license sales without more hunters on the ground killing said game. Less hunters, more game. Should we not be encouraging non hunters to purchase tags?



Boo, those huge domestic turkeys have escaped and turned feral? Are there wild turkey out there?
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we are talking about people submitting limitted entry draw applications with zero intention of hunting the animal in question. This is wrong and a way needs to be found to make such behavior an offense.
 
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