British Full-Auto Garand
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The Wizard
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Dark parts on dark background and bad camera work. Too bad.
Peter Laidler is a very knowledgeable former REME officer , he often had very informative comments on the MilSurp.com site , and was the author of the well researched book, The Sten Machine Carbine , I just about fell over when I just saw the price for this book on Amazon.ca , $ 1098.83 , unbelievable..!, I think I paid $75 Canadian 20 years ago..
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The Americans did too. Apparently Major David Winters of the 101st was at one point given a full auto Garand for field tests when he was a captain. Did it make it into actual European combat? I am not sure.
He's actually in a bunch of gun Jesus's videos, he wrote a book on British bullpups called Thorneycroft to SA80, and it was published by Headstamp Publishing, the outfit Ian started and used to publish his books on French rifles and on Chinese mystery pistols.
South Korea did some experiments with full auto mods to Garands and the Italians went full out with their BM59 full auto Garand version, which only differed by the addition of a 20 round box magazine
Installing an interruptor to a sear disconnect isn't rocket science by any means, neither is the addition of a selector switch to engage the sear disconnect, when full auto mode is appropriate.
Mostly, full auto battle rifles are just a waste of ammunition, IMHO, other than in a spray and pray role to keep the enemy behind cover or slowed down.
Anybody ever try a barrack room conversion of an FN to full auto? It made a a lot of sound and fury, but was basically uncontrollable.
The selective fire FN C2 was retrograde step from the Bren - too light, fired from a closed bolt, awkward magazine and didn't have a quick change barrel. I was amazed that we actually adopted the C2 after all of the recent experiences in WW2 and Korea; the wiser choice at the time would have been to convert the Bren to 7.62 as the Brits did.
The selective fire FN C2 was retrograde step from the Bren - too light, fired from a closed bolt, awkward magazine and didn't have a quick change barrel. I was amazed that we actually adopted the C2 after all of the recent experiences in WW2 and Korea; the wiser choice at the time would have been to convert the Bren to 7.62 as the Brits did.
The Commies got smart and went with a mid powered round, Our guys were stuck in the past I hate to say.
Grizz
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Only with blanks. Didn't have the nerve do that with live ammo. But, apparently the Canadian Navy actually had a select fire option on what looked like an FNC1.
Not sure if all thier shipboard rifles were like that or only a select few?
Is that the 280 that the FAL was originally to be chambered in?
I haven't shot a Bren in 7.62 Nato, but I have used one chambered for 8x57 Mauser and it was a great light machine gun for suppresive and support roles. Easily controlled and as long as there was a competent operator, would do several mags before the barrel got to hot.
Actually, they were being dictated to by the US, who usually absorb most of the costs as far as operations and supply go.
Other nations had and some still have FNSLRs with full auto selector switches. Mostly the FA function is disabled tho.
The FNSLR is one of the most awkward and clumsy rifles, IMHO, to be accepted as a general battle rifle.
If you like them, you love them, if you don't like them, you hate them.
Why the Navy would want to use a full size battle rifle for boarding parties doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Especially with the tight confines encountered within a ship.
I can understand a CAR4, but an FNSLR???????????????????
H&K MP5s would be ideal for the job, even the very reliable Sterling SMG design would be excellent and there weren't any shortages of those in Canada.
