Broke my gun dry firing

If my television breaks, I have to take it to a Toshiba Canada repair center. Toshiba Canada imported the TV from Asia and supports a warranty on it despite the fact it was sold through a retailer.

Marstar was the sole distributor of these guns, to my knowledge. If they distributed a faulty product I would have expected they would rectify it. What good does going through the dealer to Marstar do besides frustrate the parties involved? Just doesn't make sense for one broken firing pin.
 
AK said:
If my television breaks, I have to take it to a Toshiba Canada repair center. Toshiba Canada imported the TV from Asia and supports a warranty on it despite the fact it was sold through a retailer.

Marstar was the sole distributor of these guns, to my knowledge. If they distributed a faulty product I would have expected they would rectify it. What good does going through the dealer to Marstar do besides frustrate the parties involved? Just doesn't make sense for one broken firing pin.
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Thats like saying, The butcher who bought the raw pork off a farm and sold it to a restaurant is at fault if the RESTAURANT undercooks the pork and You get SICK. You are complaining about the Butcher for it when you shoud be dealing with the Restaurant, you TRUE point of contact. If the butcher has a warranty to cover end users of their meat, you have a right to demand compensation or replacement, but most do not, and i think its the same for firearms, and other items.


Sheesh, i feel for you that you went thru this, but you are LUCKY if Marstar warranty it. Next time, just but from the Dealer then :) problem solved. my 2 cents... Oh and buy some Snap Caps :D
 
AK: contact marstar. they are the warranty people for norinco. if you bought the gun from them there is a year warranty.
 
AK said:
If my television breaks, I have to take it to a Toshiba Canada repair center.
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And how do you know to take it to a Toshiba repair centre? Because there was a little card included with your TV. In the absence of a card, one returns the product to the point of purchase.
If you'd really done the research you say you did, you'd know that.

I've certainly had problems with some of Marstsar/John's claims and statements in the past, and may bump heads with him in the future; but I've got to say that this time, I'm siding with Marstar. You are out of line here.
As for cancelling the 5 other guns you have on pre-order, do whatever you think is right.


bullzeye said:
AK: contact marstar. they are the warranty people for norinco. if you bought the gun from them there is a year warranty.
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Really, so they do the warranty for the Norincos the Lever imported? Or the Norincos that CanAmmo imports? Or the Norincos that BELL imported?
"It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"
 
Be sure to use a one eighth roll pin punch to drive out the roll pins in the slide they can be found at canadian tire. Hopefully you can get a new firing pin free of charge.
 
Dry firing is not harmful to center fire pistols. Snap caps are fine but not necessary; a solution to a non-problem. The fact is; that firing pin was due to break anyway, and would have probably broken sooner if the gun was being used for live fire.

Rebounding firing pins in center fire guns will not cause a problem unless there is a defect in the material or workmanship of the part. Note that the Norinco is a cheaper knock-off of an expensive, but extremely well made firearm. Sigs are built to last with high quality parts and materials. Norincos, not so much.

FWIW: over the years I have dry fired my guns literally millions of times. My current match gun probably has over 50,000 on it so far. No breakage, no wear, no issues, not ever.
 
Marstar is under no obligation to provide you with free warranty service as you did not purchase the pistol from them. Comparisons to your TV are worthless since Marstar is not the manufacturer and thus has no responsibility for a gun they did not sell to you. If you don't understand the difference between a manufacturer and a distributor/importer, then consider this whole situation to be your not-quite-free lesson.
 
wait, why is someone #####ing-n-whining about a $20 part on a made-in-china $350 pistol that's at least half of the price of the next best same-type pistol out there? chinese stuff is cheap for a reason - it's NOT cuz they have sympathy for our economy and want to give us the lowest price possible. and it's NOT cuz they use the best quality materials possible and sell the stuff at a $0 profit.

made-in-china is mostly about quantity, not quality. sometimes they make some surprisingly good copies (of all kinds of things), but you gotta be realistic and expect #### to break on 'em.

and when it DOES break, why are you even going to Marstar? shouldn't you be going to the local Chinese Embassy to #####-n-complain about a product that their country made and sold to you? you DID cc: the WTO on your complaint, right?
 
OMG I've been dry firing my pistol and rifles with the exception of 22LR since 1987. I never ever had an issue. It could have been that the firing pin was defective.
 
IBTL.

Why not just call the dealer you bought it from, assuming you didn't buy it used. If the dealer tells you to piss off, then maybe post a rant about the dealer.

Blaming one of THREE Norinco importers without even knowing Marstar was the importer or not is just silly.

And for the record, Norinco does not warranty ANYTHING. The guns Marstar warrants are on Marstar's dime in order to back the products they sell. As far as I know, no other Norinco distributors advertise a written warranty for Norinco products, so if you buy a Norc and expect warranty service - buy from Marstar (directly).

It's also your fault for not getting clarification on what the warranty was from the point of sale. I still can't fathom why you didn't start by calling the dealer?!?
 
I dry fire to smooth out my trigger finger. I doubt it does much to smooth out the trigger. I don't see how this could damage a DA S&W, or Colt. I'm not sure about a Ruger with a transfer bar. I avoid dry firing my rifles and shotguns, and especially my rimfires.

DA revolvers take a lot of practice, and I can't afford all that ammo. Dry firing is like shadow boxing. Repetition of movement is the only way to perfect that movement. If you dry fire a thousand times, the movement becomes natural, minus any flinching.

When people say they never flinch, I like to use this training technique: I load the cylinder, and leave a few empties in the cylinder. When he/she pulls the trigger on the empty, nine times out of ten, they'll flinch, big time. Every time this happens, it really takes them by surprise.
 
I try not to dry fire any gun. But there are the odd times (and I know im not the only one who has done this) that im blasting off a high cap mag in my Ruger 10/22 and it dry fires when im out of ammo cause I lost count. This has happened several times with my Ruger 10/22 and I have had no problems. I know with the rimfire snap caps you are not supposed to dry fire the guns with them as well, the ones made out of aluminum anyway. I have dry fired my Glocks and center fire rifles and have had no problems either.
 
Capone said:
YOU NEVER DRY FIRE A GUN PERIOD! and a norinco are cheap from the start
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that's pretty retarted... i've dry-fired 1911s, beretta 92s, revolvers, etc. dry firing (with a snap cap) is no different from having a dud load - the mechanical bits do their part, hit what they're supposed to hit, and the round doesn't fire. oh well, no biggie. whether it's a snap-cap or a misfire doesn't really matter to the firearm.

hell, when i'm "done" shooting a revolver, just to be sure that i didn't miss a round i DA pull the trigger a bunch of times to cycle through all the rounds in the cylinder in case one didn't go or i miscounted and still have a live one somewhere.

i've only gotten a "please don't dry-fire this gun" when someone handed me their S&W Model 41 (which is a 22LR pistol).
 
Dry fire is one of the most efficient ways of learning to shoot. It removes the distraction and trouble-shooting variables of recoil and noise so you can focus exclusively on the correct physical skills (mechanics) required for firing an accurate shot on demand. If you don't dry fire.....a lot....it's very likely that you will adopt some bad habits over time in your shooting, and you may not be able to diagnose them. This will limit your ability to advance.

Center-fire pistols are designed with dry fire in mind, so I really wouldn't think twice about it. If you need to dry fire a rim-fire, the old "piece of rubber or leather in the breach" trick takes the stress off the firing pin.
 
AK said:
Think I'll just get a real SIG firing pin from Questar, do the work myself, and cancel the five other firearms I've preordered with Marstar. To go through this kind of rigmarole on a BRAND NEW firearm with a defective part is ridiculous.
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Why not buy a SIG in the first place... :nest:


On a more serious note, did you check with the dealer you bought the gun from?... What kind of service is he giving you?

As far as I know, a broken firing pin is no reason to get one's panties in a knot.
 
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