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Does anyone know if anyone have ever approached Browning to do a CF Commemorative edition given our use of the browning for such a long time?
Just wondering
Just wondering
1. Full Size, DAO Trigger
2. Current NATO Service + 2 years
3. 9mm
4. Magazine >13rds, >15rds is better
5. Unloaded weight + empty magazine must be < 950g
6. Barrel must be 102mm or longer
7. Trigger pull must be between 4-8 lbs
8. Ambidextrous magazine release
9. Must not need to pull the trigger to disassemble
10. No magazine safety
11. No safety devices to manipulate
12. Must have an M 1913 accessory rail
13. Trigger pull weight must be consistent every Shot.
Color me confused but I don't actually see a pistol that meets the criteria anywhere?
Several Federal Entities down here issue Glock's and Smith&Wesson M&P guns - but in either .40S&W or .45ACP.
Hk seems to have the only truly ambo mag release - with their dual lever. But the USP is a brick, and a poor contender to their new designs.
28 NATO Countries use the following
Albania - M9/Beretta 92
Belgium - Hi-Power and FN 5.7
Bulgaria - Sig Pro 2022
Canada - No2 Mk1* (Browning Hi-Power) and Sig P225
Croatia - HS2000 / Springfield XD
Czech Republic - CZ-75
Denmark - Glock 17
Estonia - Hk USP
France - Hk USP and Glock 17
Germany - Hk USP
Greece - Glock 17
Hungary - Hk USP
Iceland - Glock 17
Italy - Beretta
Latvia - Glock 19 and Glock 17
Lithuania - Glock 17
Luxembourg - Mk1 Browning Hi-Power
Netherlands - Glock 17
Norway - Glock 17
Poland - well GROM uses the Hk USP
Portugal - Glock 19 (replaced the Hk USP in 2009)
Romania - appears to still be their version of the Tokarev
Slovakia - appears to still be their version of the Makarov
Slovenia - I cannot locate any info
Spain - Hk USP
Turkey - Zignana C45 - a .45 ACP gun
United Kingdom - BHP and Sig P226
United States - M9 Beretta, Glock 19, and 1911
Okay so the current Browning Hi-Power is out, as is the SigP225.
Leaving the remaining 9mm guns as:
Sig P226R -
Sig P228R -
Sig Pro 2022 -
Glock 17 - squeeze trigger on disassembly
Glock 19 - squeeze trigger on disassembly
HS2000/Springfield XD - pretty poor performance in any US LE entity testing.
Beretta M-9 - Not DOA in issue configuration - and too big/heavy
CZ 75 B - not DOA
CZ PO1 - to small
HK USP – expensive and no 1913 rail
Based on the above I believe that the spec has been written for the Sig Pro 2022 exclusively to justify a sole source award.
^ thats the POS SOR and who ever wrote it should be fired
The worst part is "Must not need to pull the trigger to disassemble" Why? because what is the last step in every CF safety precaution! So why on earth would this matter????
I dont see Browning doing a CF edition BHP as the sales would be very limited, But we can ask Inglis Canada to make us a special run of BHPs![]()
Is the CF even getting a new pistol?
I would get one if they made a CF edition currently serve and want a Browning HP.... Doubt it will take off though
What's wrong with the browning that they need a new pistol for?
What's wrong with the browning that they need a new pistol for?
What's wrong with the browning that they need a new pistol for?