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The last couple of years I have discussed my new and simple invention of a broken shell extractor, in these fine pages as well as in the pages of "Gun boards", whereupon a broken shell can be safely an quicly extracted from by a metal rod, with a small hook at the end, could be put through the broken shell and hook onto the libs of a broken case and thus be extracted with ease.

The november-december 2007 issue of "Rifle Magazine", page 109, tells:

"Brownells offers broken shell extractor"

"Adjutable for overall lenght, the tool engages the edge og the lip of the case mouth and is easy to use. Simply drop the Broken Shell Extractor into the chamber directly inside the broken case. Allow the bolt to close so the extractor engages the rim of tool, then retract the boot to open to open the chamber. The rifle's ectractor will then pull the Broken Shell Extractor, along with the remains of the case. MSRP $ 19.95".
 
The very old type of broken shell extractor did no use any hook that went over the lips of the broken case, instead the by force, "pushed" the inner walls of the broken shell until it was out. My invention of using a hook over the libs of the broken case is much simpler and efficient, an actually, one metal rod with a small hook could be made to fit any caliber in order to extract any broken shells.

Brownells is targeting the world military marked with my simple invention, and without my permissions.
 
snowhunter said:
Brownells is targeting the world military marked with my simple invention, and without my permissions.
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Sue them if you think they "stole" your idea. (I assume you hold the Patents for the device?)

I am sure you can find a lawyer willing to represent you for a share of the damages you will be claiming .......................... well maybe not. ;)
 
Your device sounds essentially like a crochet hook. The one illustrated in Brownells' catalogue uses diametrically opposed spring tempered grippers, incorporated in the traditional dummy round format. Broken shell extractors have been around almost as long as metallic cartridges. The broken shell extractor issued with the US trapdoor .45-70 engaged the edge of the neck of the broken case. It was not an internally expanding collet type as used during the latter part of the 19th century and throughout the 20th.
 
one simple question...... do you own the patent for this "stolen idea"?. If you do, that's even better if they stole it from you... you are on your way to potentially millions of dollars of settlement. Sue them.... good luck. :)
 
I own intellectual property rights to my idea of of this extremely simple broken shell extractor, which I have discussed in these fine page several times. Now the Brownells Company have stolen my intellectual property, and started to manufacture and marked my intellectural property of this very simple broken shell extractor towards the huge military marked.

Clearly, these fine pages are being read in important places, like magazine publishers as well as manufactorers, for idea's to make extra money from the world of military and hunting world.
 
The idea of catching the end of the broken case in order to extract it is over 100 years old.
Your idea was for a steel rod with a hook on the end.
The Brownells tool is much more sophisticated, and employs the primary extraction camming cycle of the action to loosen and remove the broken case. It has little in common with your crochet hook idea.
Exactly what aspect of your tool is original, previously unknown?
If you were concerned about intellectual property rights, why did you post your idea on open forums, instead of attempting to patent or register the design? Incidentally, for an idea to be patentable, it must be new, an improvement, and not just a version of something that has existed in the common domain for a long time.
 
If you talked about your idea hence it is available to the public and anyone can use it.

Next time you have an invention, keep your mouth shut, and finger off the keyboard, and file for a patent.
 
Intellectual property rights, simple. I never authorized Brownells to manufacture and marked my intellectual property.

I even suggested, in these fine pages, that such a hook and the end of af metal rod could be made to fit a rifle cleaning rod, and thus universally create a broken shell extractor that would fit any rifle caliber.

However, the Brownells Company chosed to just to make one for each caliber and make a huge profit form my intellectural property ?
 
snowhunter said:
Intellectual property rights, simple. I never authorized Brownells to manufacture and marked my intellectual property.

I even suggested, in these fine pages, that such a hook and the end of af metal rod could be made to fit a rifle cleaning rod, and thus universally create a broken shell extractor that would fit any rifle caliber.

However, the Brownells Company chosed to just to make one for each caliber and make a huge profit form my intellectural property ?
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you disclosed your invention to the public before filing for a patent, hence it is open to the public and ANYONE can use it. (in Canada you have 12 months to apply for a patent after the first public disclousure)

Since you don't have a patent, you don't have any "intellecutal property rights"!

sorry, there is nothing you can do (PM me for more info)
 
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Brownells isn't marketing your idea. Theirs is different and mechanically superior.
They are marketing different extracting tools - one for removing broken cases, another for stuck cases.
Exactly which aspect of the design that you offered freely on the internet to anyone who wanted to read your posts do you feel is your intellectual property to which you have exclusive rights?
 
tiraq, Brownells is clearly using my intellectual proppety in "their" versison of my broken shell extraxtor. In particular in using the my invented hooks that goes over the libs of a broken shell, and then extract the broken shell from a chamber.
 
snowhunter said:
tiraq, Brownells is clearly using my intellectual proppety in "their" versison of my broken shell extraxtor. In particular in using the my invented hooks that goes over the libs of a broken shell, and then extract the broken shell from a chamber.
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YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY AS YOU DO NOT HAVE A PATENT
 
You are not the first person to think that using inverted hooks engaging the front edge of a case neck to extract a separated case from a chamber would work. It is a very old concept. All sorts of "gunsmiths" over the years have made similar tools. Obviously you haven't seen them?

I believe this old idea is considered common knowledge and not patentable.

No one has been able to make much money selling their particular version.

I doubt Brownell's will make much off their version either and it will soon be discontinued, although with the automatic machining available today they may be able to make a profit.

I also doubt Brownell's have any patent and I am fairly sure you can copy their tool and market it yourself... and I am sure you won't make much either.
 
One does not need a patent. Intellectual properties are protected world wide.

The US is in the forefront of protecting intellectual property rights.

This also demonstrates that these fine pages are being monitored by individuals with connections to the gun magazines as well as the gun industry which are part of the military industrial complex, looking for new idea's for making a profit.

Our combined intellectual powers in these fine pages, are being "harvested" for profits by the gun media as well as the military industrial complex.
 
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