Build your own AR from a billet of alluminum

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Yeah, these things make sense in a few US states where "building" your own AR lets you skirt registrations. Considering you'd need your RPAL to even look into building an AR lower from an 80% billet. Then it still needs to be registered with the RCMP. Basically makes no sense to build your own lowers from 80% billets here in Canada. If you're a law abiding citizen here, you get none of the benefits that our neighbors to the south do. All this allows us to do is make overall more expensive lowers with a lot more paperwork involved.

Assuming my knowledge of building firearms in Canada is accurate at least...
 
ss1980 said:
You're not getting it. It's worth every penny because you can assemble as many ARs in your garage as you want -- all unregistered. Think bigger!!! The possibilities are endless. Think out of the box ;-)
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Sorry, but this is not thinking out of the box.
Making AR lowers with CNC equipment has been done for a long time.

If you really want to "think out of the box", invent something nobody has done.
 
Phat Eagle said:
It finishes the 80 percent lowers, not a raw billet of aluminum. You can get a $150 jig that will allow you to do the same thing.

That said, it's pretty cool. Great in the States, but in Canada your finished lower needs a serial number and has to be shipped to the CFC to be verified.
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Do they need a serial number? Plenty of firearms in Canada without them. I honestly don't know. I thought they'd just give you one of those stickers if
it didn't have a serial number.
 
It's not the CNC that's out of the box. It's the ability now due to widespread of cheap portable cnc machines as well as software and 3d printers to create lowers and avoid registration. Which means the people who want to create a ghost gun that's untraceable can now do it. I'm curious to see what further crackdowns on 3d printers and the free for all gun designs will be in the future. Just like with hobby drones -- they were free for all until they became widespread and now they are trying to legislate them (flight plans, registrations, rules and regulations how far when and how close to other objects you can fly them).

EHG said:
Sorry, but this is not thinking out of the box.
Making AR lowers with CNC equipment has been done for a long time.

If you really want to "think out of the box", invent something nobody has done.
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We have been discussing the disruptive technologies from Defence Distributed for some time.

Cody Wilson is interested in making firearms manufacturing possible for everyone, as a subversive political act.

I would love it if tens of thousands of these machines, and the mag printing 3d printers were sold in Canada.

That would be the kind of radical libertarian action that would scare the poop out of the political class.
 
ss1980 said:
It's not the CNC that's out of the box. It's the ability now due to widespread of cheap portable cnc machines as well as software and 3d printers to create lowers and avoid registration. Which means the people who want to create a ghost gun that's untraceable can now do it. I'm curious to see what further crackdowns on 3d printers and the free for all gun designs will be in the future. Just like with hobby drones -- they were free for all until they became widespread and now they are trying to legislate them (flight plans, registrations, rules and regulations how far when and how close to other objects you can fly them).
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I really don't see how this is any different than completing regular 80% lowers on a drill press or with a jig. In fact this costs ten times as much.

Anyone who's bound and determined doesn't need a $1000 cnc that still relies on you having an 80% lower. The info for the home hobbyist to make their own firearms in a home workshop has been available for decades.
 
Leg said:
I really don't see how this is any different than completing regular 80% lowers on a drill press or with a jig. In fact this costs ten times as much.

Anyone who's bound and determined doesn't need a $1000 cnc that still relies on you having an 80% lower. The info for the home hobbyist to make their own firearms in a home workshop has been available for decades.
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exactly .....



now if it would machine a useable , finished product from a solid block of material , then it would actually be useful .
 
burnt_servo said:
exactly .....



now if it would machine a useable , finished product from a solid block of material , then it would actually be useful .
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Im fairly certain if you have the CNC programing ability, this can use any tinyG or something like that open source CNC code. So if you can design something with cad software, you probably could machine em from billet aluminum. But those are very specific skill sets.
 
There are plenty available from $50 to $99 apiece.
People have them shipped to US forwarding address and then the package is forwarded to Canada no questions asked.

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vandoo66 said:
where are 80% lowers available. I could use an attractive paperweight
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You can go buy them in the US and bring them across the border -- CNC machines are not prohibited or just have them shipped to a US forwarding address and they forward packages to your Canadian address for a nominal fee.

effinggoof said:
We have been discussing the disruptive technologies from Defence Distributed for some time.

Cody Wilson is interested in making firearms manufacturing possible for everyone, as a subversive political act.

I would love it if tens of thousands of these machines, and the mag printing 3d printers were sold in Canada.

That would be the kind of radical libertarian action that would scare the poop out of the political class.
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