Building a Hunting Battery

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I've been hunting a number of years, carrying on a family heritage that skipped a generation between my Grandfather and I. A few years ago I sold the majority of my firearms, save a 12g Browning BPS, for financial reasons (i.e. Tuition). Recently, (last March) my Grandfather passed away and left me:

Remington 11-87 12g
Remington 7600 .30-06
Remington 552 Deluxe Speedmaster .22lr
Taurus .357 magnum revolver
Smith & Wesson Model 17 .22lr revolver

Since then, I have sold each firearm, again due to financial reasons. There was little sentimental value in the firearms anyway, since my Grandfather's original firearms were stolen in 1994. The rifles were insurance replacements. He never had the chance to hunt with the firearms I sold, due to being unable to get around in the woods like he used to. He did still target shoot with the revolvers, however, at the present time, I have no interest in target shooting myself, so they were sold.

Financially...I'm back on my feet again. Now, it's time to start thinking about building a 'hunting battery' in my safe.

Currently, I still own my Browning BPS 12g and purchased a Browning A-bolt II Varmint Stalker in .22-250, which has caused some havoc on the coyote population out my my in-law's place.

Basically, I've broken things down this way in deciding what firearms to add in future. This accounts for game across Canada. Although I live in Ontario, I have a lot of friends and family that live across this great country of ours...and I never know when I'm going to be travelling out somewhere to join up with a hunt:

The Little Guys: Squirrel, Groundhog, Fox, Rabbit, Raccoon;

The Canine Predators: Coyote, Wolf;

Medium Game: Whitetail Deer, Mule Deer, Mountain Goat, Mountain Sheep, Antelope, Black Bear;

Large Game: Bison, Caribou, Elk, Moose;

Upland Game Birds;

Waterfowl;

Basically, those are the species I have interest in hunting in future. Some will point out that I've missed a few (Grizzly Bears, Cougars, etc.), but, as I said, I've listed the species I have interest in hunting in future.

I figure that I'm pretty much covered for Wolf and Coyote with the .22-250, which I've become quite fond of and I'm covered for waterfowl and turkeys and probably upland game birds with the 12g...however I may look into a 20g for upland instead.

Based on this information, what kind of battery should I build?

My Grandfather was quite fond of the .30-06 and the .30-30 for deer. I currently hunt deer exclusively by archery, since it's more convenient to do so due to my father-in-law having access to a lot of land, which unfortunately has no rifle season. However, I would like to rifle hunt deer in future.

I don't necessarily need a 'do-it-all' rifle...so, let the suggestions come freely...except for those that suggest blowing groundhogs away with a .416 Rigby...

I prefer bolt actions and despise semi-automatics. No offence to those that use them...they're just not my cup of tea.

I'm trying to get back into hunting after a bit of a hiatus...school sucks a lot of money out of an individual that could be useful towards purchasing firearms...now, if I could just convince my buddies to take up hunting, then I'd have more people to hunt with.

Still looking to get out after some ducks and geese...scheduling issues getting in the way...no one to go with...yadda yadda yadda.

Anyway...bring on those 'new toy' suggestions!
 
hmm perhaps one of the legacy model 94's, a 16 or 20 gauge Browning Auto-5, a really nice condition Cooey, model 39 or 60 and a Longbranch No.4 Mk 1
 
With the .270" caliber restriction in parts of S. Ontario, you might want a .270 instead of a 30/06........... in a 7600 :idea:


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Buy the best and buy two of everything... that way the next time you have to sell them off you will make twice as much money :wink: :p
.25WSSM VarmintStalker
.300WSM Sako Laminate
.338WM BLR
Benelli 3.5 12g
Beretta O/U 20g
 
I can't help but thinking had you not sold your Grandfather's heirlooms you would have all the guns you need RIGHT NOW. Yes, I said heirlooms as he probably loved and cared for those insurance guns as much as the ones that went missing and the fact that he left them to you instead of the estate says something about his mindset in that he thought they were going to a good home - oops! I know if my kid sold off my guns and then turned around and bought other basically equivalent guns I'd return from the grave and wipe that smile off his smart-ass disrespectful face pretty F-n quick :shock:

Sorry for taking off the kid gloves, but this kind of thing REALLY gets me going. :evil:
 
22 WMR or 17 HMR or maybe a 22 Hornet

22-250

270 for southern ON & 30-06 for everywhere else

12 guage


Should be all you need according to your target list


And Claven, sometimes desparate times call for desparate measures. I see no wrong in doing what was done, as he says there was no sentimental value involved.

Have fun RDS.
 
Find a good used Rem 700 in 222 or 223,one of the standard BDL models with 24" barrel, or a Varmint Special. If you are going to reload, the 222 is nice, if factory ammo is all you'll use, get a 223.

Find a good used bolt action in 30'06,7mm Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag. This will ALL you need for deer to moose. If you are going to reload, you could go to a less "common" cartridge in the same class, like the 7STW, 7Wtby or 300 Wtby etc. More often than not if you are buying a used rifle, the cartridge of choice will be dependent upon what comes up for sale for the right price at the right time. If you are buying new, get exactly what you want. Get one of the new short mags if you like.

then....for the bison and your trip to Africa :D , get a 375 H&H or a 416 Remington in a Winchester Model 70. Could also be used for moose without feeling too overgunned. Heck, use it on deer if you want to....I hear they'll knock over a deer forthwith :shock:

But you'll want a big bore lever gun someday for prowling the thick stuff after deer and moose.....maybe a Marlin 1895 in 45-70....would also work for bison.. :D
 
Claven2 said:
I can't help but thinking had you not sold your Grandfather's heirlooms you would have all the guns you need RIGHT NOW. Yes, I said heirlooms as he probably loved and cared for those insurance guns as much as the ones that went missing and the fact that he left them to you instead of the estate says something about his mindset in that he thought they were going to a good home - oops! I know if my kid sold off my guns and then turned around and bought other basically equivalent guns I'd return from the grave and wipe that smile off his smart-ass disrespectful face pretty F-n quick :shock:

Sorry for taking off the kid gloves, but this kind of thing REALLY gets me going. :evil:
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Woah woah woah there buddy. I knew I was getting my Grandfather's firearms before he died...and in his words, they were 'pieces of crap' and I could do with them what I wanted. They were all the insurance company would cover at the time and he never liked them. His pistols were another matter, however, desperate times call for desperate measures.

But, thanks for your obvious sixth-sense insight on my family dynamics. My Grandfather would be more the type to crawl out of his grave and kick YOUR ass for what you said to me.
 
RDS said:
Claven2 said:
I can't help but thinking had you not sold your Grandfather's heirlooms you would have all the guns you need RIGHT NOW. Yes, I said heirlooms as he probably loved and cared for those insurance guns as much as the ones that went missing and the fact that he left them to you instead of the estate says something about his mindset in that he thought they were going to a good home - oops! I know if my kid sold off my guns and then turned around and bought other basically equivalent guns I'd return from the grave and wipe that smile off his smart-ass disrespectful face pretty F-n quick :shock:

Sorry for taking off the kid gloves, but this kind of thing REALLY gets me going. :evil:
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Woah woah woah there buddy. I knew I was getting my Grandfather's firearms before he died...and in his words, they were 'pieces of crap' and I could do with them what I wanted. They were all the insurance company would cover at the time and he never liked them. His pistols were another matter, however, desperate times call for desperate measures.

But, thanks for your obvious sixth-sense insight on my family dynamics. My Grandfather would be more the type to crawl out of his grave and kick YOUR ass for what you said to me.
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:lol: :eek: :eek: Nice One!!!!!! :lol: :lol:
 
Whatever pal. If you don't want this kind of opinion, keep your questions to the point. Don't drivel on about gramps' guns and then ask "what guns should I get" or people liek me will tell you you;re a dumbass for having sold all the right guns in the firstplace :roll:
 
Claven2 said:
Whatever pal. My grandfather left me some of his guns and if I ever had to sell, they would be the LAST to go despite the fact that they are far from being go-to guns. Perhaps you value Gramps less than I do. Good for you. Student loans can be paid off, heirlooms once sold are gone forever.

If you expect me to apologize and sing Kumbayah to you so you feel better about things, forget it. No form rules say I have to agree with you :roll:
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Listen, the firearms were far from heirlooms. He never even fired a shot out of them. He disliked them even though he never hunted with them. If those firearms consisted of his pre-64 Model 70 and 94, plus my Great-Grandfather's .22lr, then...different story. I'd still have them.

As for you 'singing Kumbayah', etc., you have already proven what kind of human being you are by your actions. That being said, you're forgiven, because the man I follow forgave all others before him.

End of threadjack.
 
Claven2...... grow up and quit being such a ####!

heir·loom

1 : a piece of property that descends to the heir as an inseparable part of an inheritance of real property

2 : something of special value handed on from one generation to another

It sounds like gramps thought they were neither of "special value" or an "inseparable part of an inheritance".

Furthermore, possibly you have never been financially "burdened", but obviously RDS had his reasons.... so DROP IT!!!!!

The perfect Battery (factory rifles):


CZ 452 AMERICAN - 22 rimfire (Plinking/small critters)
Rem 700 LVSF - 223 Rem (Vermin)
Rem 700 Stainless Laminate Mtn - 7-08 (Wolves, Deer, Goat, Sheep, Bear....)
Rem Rem 700 CDL - 35 Whelen (Moose, Elk....)
Beretta 686 O/U 12 Guage (Or Rem Wingmaster if on a budget.....)

Pretty hard to beat that for a well rounded Battery of factory offerings IMHO!


OR....... buy a Rem 700 LSS Mtn rifle in 30-06 and forget all the rest (except the scatter gun and 22 rimfire).



280_ACKLEY
 
RDS said:
If those firearms consisted of his pre-64 Model 70 and 94, plus my Great-Grandfather's .22lr, then...different story. I'd still have them.

As for you 'singing Kumbayah', etc., you have already proven what kind of human being you are by your actions. That being said, you're forgiven, because the man I follow forgave all others before him.

End of threadjack.
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Well then I'd say that's a good starting point. Why not look to reacquire examples of those guns which seem to have meaning to you? They are fine choices, by the way and not very difficult to locate.

As for the "kind of human being" I am, well I'm the kind who believes in tradition, family and personal freedom. What kind are you?
 
280_ACKLEY said:
Claven2...... grow up and quit being such a ####!
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"I disagree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire

Schedule B - Constitution Act, 1982 Enacted as Schedule B to the Canada Act 1982 (U.K.) 1982, c. 11, which came into force on April 17, 1982

PART I

Canadian charter of rights and freedoms

Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
a) freedom of conscience and religion;
b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
d) freedom of association.
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I rest my case.
 
Claven2 said:
RDS said:
If those firearms consisted of his pre-64 Model 70 and 94, plus my Great-Grandfather's .22lr, then...different story. I'd still have them.

As for you 'singing Kumbayah', etc., you have already proven what kind of human being you are by your actions. That being said, you're forgiven, because the man I follow forgave all others before him.

End of threadjack.
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Well then I'd say that's a good starting point. Why not look to reacquire examples of those guns which seem to have meaning to you? They are fine choices, by the way and not very difficult to locate.

As for the "kind of human being" I am, well I'm the kind who believes in tradition, family and personal freedom. What kind are you?
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That's not how you came across. You came across as a 'stir the pot' type individual, who took pleasure in interfering in someone else's business while putting himself in the position of being a judge of character when he had no evidence to work on in making his judgement.

As for me...I'm judge of no man, I leave that to someone far above me. My family is very close to me, but, none are closer than Jesus...he comes first. And, that goes for every member of my family, a reason why we are VERY close. My Grandfather was the same way...possessions meant little. I'm sure he understood when I had to sell his possessions. I don't go out of my way to attempt to make people feel guilty for their actions, as you did. But, ya know what...it matters little...so, I'm dropping it. Your forgiven...and that's the end.

Let's stop highjacking this thread.
 
here's what i'd do if i had to start over (and didn't mostly hunt with my milsurps).

1. a good .22 for gophers, skunks, turkey, etc.
2. a sporter weight .223 for coyotes, longer range gophers.
3. a nice brno 8x57 for deer, elk, etc.
4. a .375 h&h for elk, moose, griz, *afrika!*
5. one of those baikal 45-70 doubles if they ever show up, for the thick stuff.
6. a 12 gauge of some sort for birds.

so that makes 6 for me. of course #'s 4 and 5 are probably not needed.

just my thoughts.
 
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