Building the Best Canadian Made Pistol Carbine (Non-Restricted!)

lockharttactical said:
Instead of adding a competition trigger in the box, and raising the price a few hundred dollars, (A feature that the majority of firearm owners won't use), we've opted to make the trigger modular.
We will offer trigger upgrade kits for those who wish to have it.
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Great news. Thanks. I'll be opting for the trigger kit for sure. Looking forward to running this thing in a dynamic carbine match...
 
Max Owner said:
Could risers be built with a set screw to be added to the rail if one individual wanted?

But of course would add a dollar value.
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All risers mount on picatinni rails already. They have picatinni rails on the top of the riser as well.
So they quickly connect on, and then you add your optics.

They are something that people would have to spend money on.

We were making a joke below. We designed it to NOT need any riser blocks.
We made it more economical for all clients, as well as more comfortable.
 
lockharttactical said:
We don't want to be rude or come off the wrong way, but seriously.
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Seriously, I didn't find it rude at all. Some people need things explained to them in a way that they can understand and all too often guys like yourself are scared to speak how you did.

I commend you for your post. It was well spoken.
 
almost as good as the guys that want all these calibers that have no Glock magazine that can hold them. calibers are one thing, getting a magazine to reliably feed them is a whole other issue.
 
Speaking of Glock magazines, wouldn't it be a coincidence if totally by coincidence that the feed ramp and bolt were coincidentally designed to coincidentally accommodate and reliably feed 9mm from 40cal mags coincidentally? Just saying that would be a coincidence worth watching for.
 
lockharttactical said:
We don't want to be rude or come off the wrong way, but seriously.

We're putting everything we have into this firearm to ensure that it is hands down, the most modular, user friendly, customization NR firearm in Canada.
100% built from the ground up to conform to all legislation we have in place to ensure it gives you the most features and freedoms to enjoy it.

We appreciate everyone's advise on our questions such as which barrels are really important to our customers. This is valuable feedback that helped point us in the right direction to ensure that EVERYONE is getting the best value.
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Thank you for taking the time to look for input, but still stick by your design goals. No mater what anyone says, aesthetics and functionality are equally important in a quality piece. Personally I really liked the look of the carbon fibre barrel, but adding the hand guard out of the box is a great choice.
 
Sounds like a good idea

Q1) Is an ambidextrous ejection port important to you when buying a firearm?
We want to ensure we have the features that most want, while keeping the cost as low as possible
100% non-ambi I never shoot offhand
Option 2: No, I would buy it anyways

Q2) Is an ambidextrous charging handle important?
Non-ambi 100% of the way I never shoot offhand
Option 2: No, I would buy it anyways

Q3) Do you prefer side charging handles or an AR15 style charging handle?
Both options are good but side charging is a little easier to operste
Option 1: I prefer side charging handles (Left or Right side of the firearm)
Option

Q4) Does "Take Down" matter? Do you care if you can separate the rifle easily to make it more compact?
We plan on developing a 1 second, tool-less twist lock release that separates the Barrel and hand guard together as one piece from the receiver Allowing super compact storage, and easy cleaning
Cost dependent take down feature would be nice, if there is good repeatability and location to the barrel to reciever (would suck to rezero the gun each take down)

Option 1: I prefer my firearms to have a "Take Down"


Q5) Does weight matter to you?
Of course we want to make everything as lightweight as possible, but we want to know how much it matters to you.
I fall between light weight and heavy weight, the only reason I would say to not go light weight is to reduced felt recoil
Option 2: I don't care how heavy it is!

Q6) Weight Savings - Would you pay slightly more to save more weight?
Option 2 but as long as the weight is reasonable
Option 2: Heavy and cheap works for me

Q7) What kind of barrel? We want to build the best rifle package at the most competitive price possible.
We feel that most companies uses cheap barrels. We want to use the best. If we can include a Carbon Fiber, SS barrel at NO ADDITIONAL COST to you, would you want that? Or prefer just regular steel, or SS?
Lifetime warranty on the barrel! and our Firearm!
Option 2 sounds like best of both worlds
Option 2: Slightly more expensive Stainless Steel - No Rust


Q8) What kind of forend / handguard?
Option 2 as with the guns that have a quad rail I only put rail covers on the side, although tapped holes on the side to be able to add rail sections for the folks who want it may be a good compromise
Option 2: I only need a top and bottom rail

Q9) Do you care if firearms are made in Canada?
Option 1 all the way I think we need to support Canadian workers
Option 1: Yes! I support Canadian Business - If price is fair


Q10) Price Point - What price do you think would be fair for an incredible Canadian made Non-Restricted firearm like this
Either option 1 or 2 depending on features
Option 1: 700-1000
Option 2: 1000-1300
 
lockharttactical said:
Here are the questions we ask:

[/COLOR]Q1) Is an ambidextrous ejection port important to you when buying a firearm?
We want to ensure we have the features that most want, while keeping the cost as low as possible
Option 2: No, I would buy it anyways

Q2) Is an ambidextrous charging handle important?
Option 2: No, I would buy it anyways


Q3) Do you prefer side charging handles or an AR15 style charging handle?
Option 1: I prefer side charging handles (Left or Right side of the firearm)

Q4) Does "Take Down" matter? Do you care if you can separate the rifle easily to make it more compact?
We plan on developing a 1 second, tool-less twist lock release that separates the Barrel and hand guard together as one piece from the receiver Allowing super compact storage, and easy cleaning
Option 2: I wouldn't ever, or very rarely use that feature

Q5) Does weight matter to you?
Of course we want to make everything as lightweight as possible, but we want to know how much it matters to you.
Option 2: I don't care how heavy it is!

Q6) Weight Savings - Would you pay slightly more to save more weight?
Option 2: Heavy and cheap works for me

Q7) What kind of barrel? We want to build the best rifle package at the most competitive price possible.
We feel that most companies uses cheap barrels. We want to use the best. If we can include a Carbon Fiber, SS barrel at NO ADDITIONAL COST to you, would you want that? Or prefer just regular steel, or SS?
Lifetime warranty on the barrel! and our Firearm!
Option 2: Slightly more expensive Stainless Steel - No Rust
Option 3: High-end Stainless Steel Carbon Fiber Wrapped - BEST!

Q8) What kind of forend / handguard?
Option 3: I prefer a simple round handguard with no rails or very limited

Q9) Do you care if firearms are made in Canada?
Option 1: Yes! I support Canadian Business - If price is fair

Q10) Price Point - What price do you think would be fair for an incredible Canadian made Non-Restricted firearm like this
Option 1: 700-1000
Option 2: 1000-1300
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Key features we plan on implementing:
1) Ambi charing handle (side charging or AR15 style)
2) Ambi ejection
3) Last Round Open Bolt Hold
4) Bolt Release
5) Tool-less receiver take down for easy cleaning
6) Tool-less 1 second (handguard + barrel) take down quick release for compact storing and cleaning
7) High end USA MADE carbon fiber / Stainless Steel barrel Included at no additonal cost
8) Lifetime warranty on barrel
9) Lifetime warranty on firearm
10) Entire firearm as lightweight as possible
11) Will accept Glock Mags, Smith / Wesson M&P Mags and others high in demand
12) Made in Canada!
13) Impressive skeletonized handguard with ability to add rails on all sides, MLOK or bolt on, NO KEYMOD junk!



Target price point: Under $1400 CDN

We will make the carbine look as similar to an AR15 as possible while maintaining our own design to ensure it is NON-RESTRICTED.


Picture below shows the high end barrel (May end up being RED / BLACK carbon fiber!)

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Here are the questions we ask:

Q1) Is an ambidextrous ejection port important to you when buying a firearm?
We want to ensure we have the features that most want, while keeping the cost as low as possible
Option 2: No, I would buy it anyways

Q2) Is an ambidextrous charging handle important?
Option 1: I only buy firearms that are capable of ambi charging

Q3) Do you prefer side charging handles or an AR15 style charging handle?
Option 2: I prefer AR15 style charging handles

Q4) Does "Take Down" matter? Do you care if you can separate the rifle easily to make it more compact?
We plan on developing a 1 second, tool-less twist lock release that separates the Barrel and hand guard together as one piece from the receiver Allowing super compact storage, and easy cleaning
Option 1: I prefer my firearms to have a "Take Down"

Q5) Does weight matter to you?
Of course we want to make everything as lightweight as possible, but we want to know how much it matters to you.
Option 2: I don't care how heavy it is!

Q6) Weight Savings - Would you pay slightly more to save more weight?
Option 2: Heavy and cheap works for me

Q7) What kind of barrel? We want to build the best rifle package at the most competitive price possible.
We feel that most companies uses cheap barrels. We want to use the best. If we can include a Carbon Fiber, SS barrel at NO ADDITIONAL COST to you, would you want that? Or prefer just regular steel, or SS?
Lifetime warranty on the barrel! and our Firearm!
Option 2: Slightly more expensive Stainless Steel - No Rust


Q8) What kind of forend / handguard?
Option 1: I need a quad rail for accessories on all sides

Q9) Do you care if firearms are made in Canada?
Option 2: Don't Honestly Care, pricing is most important

Q10) Price Point - What price do you think would be fair for an incredible Canadian made Non-Restricted firearm like this
Option 1: 700-1000
Option 2: 1000-1300
 
Patt08 said:
I’ve asked this like 3 times, not sure if it’s been answered:

Where are these in the FRT process?
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I've been wondering the same thing. It seems to me that their projected timeline on this project is overly ambitious.

Any updates or teaser pictures would be appreciated.
 
Q1) Is an ambidextrous ejection port important to you when buying a firearm?
We want to ensure we have the features that most want, while keeping the cost as low as possible
Option 2: No, I would buy it anyways

Q2) Is an ambidextrous charging handle important?
Option 1: I only buy firearms that are capable of ambi charging

Q3) Do you prefer side charging handles or an AR15 style charging handle?
Option 1: I prefer side charging handles (Left or Right side of the firearm)


Q4) Does "Take Down" matter? Do you care if you can separate the rifle easily to make it more compact?
We plan on developing a 1 second, tool-less twist lock release that separates the Barrel and hand guard together as one piece from the receiver Allowing super compact storage, and easy cleaning
Option 1: I prefer my firearms to have a "Take Down"


Q5) Does weight matter to you?
Of course we want to make everything as lightweight as possible, but we want to know how much it matters to you.
Option 1: Yes, I want everything to be as lightweight as possible


Q6) Weight Savings - Would you pay slightly more to save more weight?
Option 1: Pay more for better lighter materials


Q7) What kind of barrel? We want to build the best rifle package at the most competitive price possible.
We feel that most companies uses cheap barrels. We want to use the best. If we can include a Carbon Fiber, SS barrel at NO ADDITIONAL COST to you, would you want that? Or prefer just regular steel, or SS?
Lifetime warranty on the barrel! and our Firearm!
Option 1: Plain regular steel - Cheapest
Option 2: Slightly more expensive Stainless Steel - No Rust
Option 3: High-end Stainless Steel Carbon Fiber Wrapped - BEST!

Q8) What kind of forend / handguard?

Option 2: I only need a top and bottom rail

Q9) Do you care if firearms are made in Canada?
Option 2: Don't Honestly Care, pricing is most important

Q10) Price Point - What price do you think would be fair for an incredible Canadian made Non-Restricted firearm like this
Option 1: 700-1000
Option 2: 1000-1300
 
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