Yeah, but this is the Black Rifle forum, where we are pistol-whipped if we complain about poor accuracy...you know, these guns aren't intended to be accurate, so expecting that apparently shows how unrealistic we are. Then, those same people who defend their expensive 3MOA rifles immediately plop on 3-15x or 6-24x scopes and think they look cool...when a red-dot or a 1-4x scope suits the accuracy much better.
And check out that X95 with the EOTech...it still looks cool and the optic fits the accuracy.![]()
Agreed, on rifles like this a 3-9x40 is all they need regardless of the intended use. They are not built for accuracy and by now I would hope that everyone realizes that just because something cost $2000+ doesn't mean that it has to be accurate.
I've gotten so tired of all the comments I read on this site from guys saying "for that price it should shoot 1 moa or better". That's one of the stupidest comments someone can write and shows just how little those people know about firearms.
Same as the guys that comment saying that "changing the trigger should shrink those groups". Another stupid comment.
If consistent accuracy is important to someone and they feel that they must have a semi auto black rifle then there are about 4 real options (there may be one or two others) and none of them are going to be under $2000 (one is close).
If a non restricted rifle with consistent accuracy is important then the options you have are:
1. HK SL8 series, I've owned three of them over the years and they will shoot 1 moa or slightly better with quality ammo, a quality optic, and someone who knows what they're doing behind the trigger.
2. Bushmaster ACR converted to non restricted with a quality aftermarket barrel. The DMR version might be close but I haven't seen any reports of them shooting 5 round sub moa repeatedly.
3. ATRS MS or Modern Varmint built with quality ammo, optic, and shooter.
4. MDI SLR built with quality barrel, quality ammo, optic, and shooter.
Other than that I can't think of any rifles that I would actually consider to be consistently accurate and non restricted.
Yes I know, there's always one guy somewhere that has a picture of a single group that looks great, but one fluke group does not make a rifle a consistent performer.
All this is pointless, as I said earlier, if hunting yotes is what you're buying the rifle for you'd be better off buying a bolt action and a nice scope.
We want these to be good coyote rigs so we can justify spending the money, but in reality these are less reliable, heavier, and less reliable. So how does that make them a good coyote rig?
We typically hunt yotes in the winter, winter is when it's cold, when it's cold is when your choice in lubricants becomes extremely important to the reliability.
The only time I can see a semi auto being an advantage over a bolt action in a hunting situation is for the fast second shot. But if you actually aim your first shot should be a quality shot that puts the animal down quickly and humanely.




















































