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Is there any particular reason so many bullpup designs have trigger guards that cover the entire hand?

Offhand, it looks like the AUG, Tavor, Vektor CR-21, SAR-21, and later FAMAS models all use trigger guards of this type. Come to think of it, I can't recall the last time I've seen a non-bullpup with a trigger guard like that.
 
Not all of them suffer from that flaw!:D:nest:

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chanman said:
Is there any particular reason so many bullpup designs have trigger guards that cover the entire hand?

Offhand, it looks like the AUG, Tavor, Vektor CR-21, SAR-21, and later FAMAS models all use trigger guards of this type. Come to think of it, I can't recall the last time I've seen a non-bullpup with a trigger guard like that.
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I think it just acts as a handguard for bumping your hand against stuff. With most conventional rifle's, the magazine & mag well acts as a kind of "barrier" but bullpups don't have anything to keep your hand from getting banged up AKA: barricade shooting and being right against a wall or using the front of the mag well and handguard to rest the gun against the top of a wall or something.
 
maybe instead of buttstocking somebody in the head they expect you to punch with the front of the weapon, hence the handguards?
 
They make a good grip for CQB style shooting with your weak hand. Since you can't grab onto the magwell, the handguard does the job. Same idea as on the Type97 picture above.
 
Epoxy7 said:
They make a good grip for CQB style shooting with your weak hand. Since you can't grab onto the magwell, the handguard does the job. Same idea as on the Type97 picture above.
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Interesting... but then how do you explain the AUG using the handguard despite coming with a VFG? :p
 
Epoxy7 said:
They make a good grip for CQB style shooting with your weak hand. Since you can't grab onto the magwell, the handguard does the job. Same idea as on the Type97 picture above.
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I found an article, that bashes the current generation of standard issue weapons of PLA: the QBZ-95, the KBU-88 Sniper Rifle and the QSZ-92 Pistol. It was an interesting read actually, maybe I'll fully translate it later.....

Here's the part regarding the trigger guard/foregrip of the Type 95:

.........Interestingly, the Type 95 is given a certain degree of attention to those who used to the Type 81-1, which is of conventional layout, in its design-especially the small foregrip at front of the trigger. In fact, most bullpup rifles existed today does not features a foregrip, even if there is one, such as Steyr AUG, is located further away from where the trigger is. On the Type 95, however, the foregrip is blended-in with the trigger guard, makes it closer to the trigger, and therefore not very comfortable when gripped with the left hand. After comparing the shooting postures between the Type 81-1 and Type 95, I suddenly realized that the feeling of when using my left hand to hold on the foregrip of the Type 95 is EXACTLY the same as holding the forward portion of the magazine on the Type 81-1. So obviously, the so-called "foregrip" on the Type 95 is actually served to "simulate" the magazine on the Type 81-1. Regarded by the westerners as a strange contraption, the foregrip has been deleted on the Type 97, which is the export version of Type 95, as they preferred to grip by the handguard.
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MadcapMagician said:
Sorry if its a stupid question but in that Type97 pictured above whats the large cylindrical bulge near the end of the barrel? Not the flash hider but just before it. Thanks
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That's the muzzle booster/chamber expander device to ensures function reliability and reduce muzzle flashes in such a short barrel carbine.
 
chanman said:
Interesting... but then how do you explain the AUG using the handguard despite coming with a VFG? :p
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The same way you explain all the FG on AR rifles when there is a magwell you could use instead. :D
 
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Epoxy7 said:
The same way you explain all the FG on AR rifles when their is a magwell you could use instead. :D
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I moved my VFG out almost to the end of my handguards, having initially tried to use my C7 with a magwell grip, a couple of instructors on my infantry course suggested trying to get your forearm as far as possible, same advice I found on lightfighter as well in some VFG discussions there. I tried it myself and find much more comfortable and with greater control over the muzzle. Which I suppose would explain the AUG grip as well. For something like the shorty T-97 you don't really have a hanguard that goes farther out, so the trigger guard makes sense.
 
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