Buying a new rifle.... .270 / 7mm / 300 WSM

Which Caliber ?

  • .270

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  • 7mm

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  • 300wsm

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cityhunter

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Hi all,

looking for my first high powered rifle. I have a 3030 for deepbush but need something with a little more range/punch...

Im new to rifling but want something that has minimal recoil and shoots flat....

im guessing the 300 wsm is a tad much ?? not really needed for southern ontario game ? I was really considering the 7mm ?

What do you think ?
 
I'd say get a 300 WSM but that's just me. My hunting rifles (only 2 of 'em :lol: ) are in .300 and .338

The 300 WSM seems to have more expensive ammo than a regular 300 win mag.

Unless you want a short action rifle I would recommend getting a 300 win mag and not looking back. You'll be good for (almost) all animals. You can get 150 grain ammo for the 300 win mag so it would be flat shooting to boot and recoil in negligable.

Cheers,

Alex
 
olek_Z_bc said:
I'd say get a 300 WSM but that's just me. My hunting rifles (only 2 of 'em :lol: ) are in .300 and .338

The 300 WSM seems to have more expensive ammo than a regular 300 win mag.

Unless you want a short action rifle I would recommend getting a 300 win mag and not looking back. You'll be good for (almost) all animals. You can get 150 grain ammo for the 300 win mag so it would be flat shooting to boot and recoil in negligable.

Cheers,

Alex
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How does it compare to the 7mm ?? I guess a tad more recoil and more energy at long ranges ?
 
It is a matter of being able to use heavier bullets. You can use 200 grainers with great results for heavy game, and 150 grain for smaller game.

As an example, from Federal ammo:

Velocity in Feet Per Second

Muzzle 100 200 300 400

2930 2704 2490 2285 2090


Energy in Foot Pounds

Muzzle 100 200 300 400

3812 3247 2752 2318 1939

This is from a high energy 200 grain nosler partition. It's a pain is the ass to paste the stats but go check out: http://www.federalcartridge.com/default.asp?pg=27&firearm=1 for any questions you might have.

In my opinion 300 win mag is a great (if not the best) all around cartridge.
 
Don't get a 300 without shooting one EXTENSIVELY first.

So many guys buy 300's and start fkinching..

Parts of Ontario have 270 restrictions I understand, so that may or may not be a factor..

I'd go for a 270, myself.
 
with proper ammuntion, the 270 can take moose and such no problem. proper ammuntion in my opinion is 150 gr. Partitions, A-Frames, Grand Slams, X's, or Bear CLaws.

there isn't much point debating if the 270 is an awesome deer cartridge, because it is probably the best one ever designed

I agree with Gatehouse, don't get a 300 unless you've put at least a box or two through a borrowed one to see what the recoil is like. 7mm Mag is a great cartridge too, but in all reality, with these modern super bullets, it won't do anything the 270 won't. Well I guess it will burn 10-15 grains more powder and be chambered in heavier rifles. :mrgreen:
 
scott_r said:
I have a .270 and love the calibre but would really like a 300 wsm as it will take any game in North America and for a bonus its a short action.


Cheers!!
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you can shoot any game with a .270 too. It all comes down to the shooter, how well thay know their gun, how much thay use it, and conditions of the hunt. There isn't any game a .270 won't take down for a good solid hunter who knows how to shoot, pratices their shooting and
doesn't try to make impossible/crazy shots. I wouldn't hesitage to shoot at a moose that i know i could shoot within my abilities.

As for restrictions in Ont. and the .270, you can use up to .275 for varmits
so the .270 becomes a great choice for all around hunting. So if you want to be able to hunt wolves, yotes etc and big game all with one gun the .270 is the gun for you.
 
Hussar_ca said:
As for restrictions in Ont. and the .270, you can use up to .275 for varmits so the .270 becomes a great choice for all around hunting
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I find it quite funny that some parts of Ontario are limited to .275" caliber for varmints, and the 270 Winchester is allowed for such game, despite the fact it uses bullets of .277" diameter :roll: :D
 
I think a .270 is the way to go. The 130 or 140 gr bullets are fine for just about anything in Ontario. If you need something for moose in closer quarters the 160gr partition would fit the bill., or even a SmithRite 180gr RN.
 
You are absolutely correct to point out that the .270 Win has a bullet diameter of .277. BUT the .270 is considered to be included in the cartridges acceptable for use in those counties where the maximum "calibre" is .275. I have heard the argument that the measurement is taken between the lands, not the grooves, but I doubt very much that this is true. I think the correct answer is the idiots who devised this stupid regulation just did not know that the .270 shoots bullets bigger than .275"

So let's not tell them, eh?????

I am never sure why people choose three cartridges at random, like .270, 7 mm and .300 WSM, but exclude hundreds of other choices. Like in the 7 mm CALIBRE, you have the 7 mm Rem Mag (which I assume is the cartridge referred to here), and the 7 mm Wby Mag (awesome cartridge), the .280 Rem (even more awesome cartridge), the 7X57 that was used by Kilimanjaro Harry or whatever his name was to shoot a bunch of elephants, the .284 Win, and so on and so forth. All excellent cartridges, all perfectly fine for deer and moose. If you are not a reloader, well..........you can buy 7 mm Rem Mag most anyplace, and .280 Rem sometimes, but the others are not carried by every gun shop!

And we have left out discussion of the quarter bores, of which there are quite a number, not to mention the 6.5/.264s which are also excellent cartridges. Hell, there are literally HUNDREDS of good choices out there when you count up possible cartridge and rifle combinations...........

My go-to rifle happens to be a BLR model 81 in .308. It fits me, I have great confidence in it, it is accurate and I love this rifle. But I would not suggest that this is the right gun for everybody!!!


If I were in cityhunter's shoes, and thought I would hunt in the southern Ontario counties with the "calibre" restrictions, I would be looking at a bolt gun in .25-06, .257 Roberts, .260 Rem, 6.5 Swede, or .270 Win.

Doug
 
yeah i was considering the 7mm rem mag ....

Looks like its comes down to the 7mm rem mag or the .270 or keep just use my .3030 with open sights and might get faced with a 190 yard shot through brush at a monster buck... ( that woudlnt be nice ! )
 
Hussar_ca said:
As for restrictions in Ont. and the .270, you can use up to .275 for varmits
so the .270 becomes a great choice for all around hunting. So if you want to be able to hunt wolves, yotes etc and big game all with one gun the .270 is the gun for you.
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What he said :!:

Plus the fact the ammo is available (and cheaper) EVERYWHERE, recoil is tolerable for alot of people, and a non-magnum rifle will be lighter than the magnums. :idea:

SC........................
 
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