Buying SWFA SS from America, anyone has idea of duties and taxes?

I think you can find better kit in Canada at better prices. Hell even the Bushnell Elite fixed 10x is $250-$300CAD, made at the same plant in Japan as the SWFA.
I'd still get some kind of variable personally, much more versatile.

I'm sure in 1993 the Tasco Super Sniper was the bomb too. 26 years later optics have improved...


Bushnell Elite and SWFA SS fixed powers are not made in the same plant, never have been.

The Tasco SS is not exactly the same as the SWFA SS, improvements were done when SWFA bought the rights from Tasco. Also why would you recommend a Hakko scope made by a company that hasn't been around for more than a decade??
 
You also have to take into consideration on, what if the scope is defective? Many electronics do fail to function properly. You will get screwed, if a company does not honour out of country (US only) warranty, which you have to send it back to US to file a warranty claim and deal with shipping, customs, ITAR, etc. all over again back and forth. It'll cost you even more and a big headache for such a risky gamble. With the extra cash wasted on shipping, customs, brokerage, fees, taxes, etc., you could have used it to buy a better more expensive high end scopes for the same cost theoretically. I honestly do not think it is worth the risk, which there are other better scope options out there on the market available in Canada with a peace of a mind warranty coverage, in case of product failures.
 
You also have to take into consideration on, what if the scope is defective? Many electronics do fail to function properly. You will get screwed, if a company does not honour out of country (US only) warranty, which you have to send it back to US to file a warranty claim and deal with shipping, customs, ITAR, etc. all over again back and forth. It'll cost you even more and a big headache for such a risky gamble. With the extra cash wasted on shipping, customs, brokerage, fees, taxes, etc., you could have used it to buy a better more expensive high end scopes for the same cost theoretically. I honestly do not think it is worth the risk, which there are other better scope options out there on the market available in Canada with a peace of a mind warranty coverage, in case of product failures.
SWFA is quite well known for their CS and how well they back the SS line. I know guys who've damaged their scopes beyond repair, in at fault accidents, and had their scopes replaced by SWFA. No big headaches, or risky gambles...
 
Bushnell Elite and SWFA SS fixed powers are not made in the same plant, never have been.

The Tasco SS is not exactly the same as the SWFA SS, improvements were done when SWFA bought the rights from Tasco. Also why would you recommend a Hakko scope made by a company that hasn't been around for more than a decade??

The SWFA aren't even made at LOW?
That's disappointing.
The Israelis actually use their gear hard, so something they tested actually means something vs the "Navy" lol.
 
You also have to take into consideration on, what if the scope is defective? Many electronics do fail to function properly. You will get screwed, if a company does not honour out of country (US only) warranty, which you have to send it back to US to file a warranty claim and deal with shipping, customs, ITAR, etc. all over again back and forth. It'll cost you even more and a big headache for such a risky gamble. With the extra cash wasted on shipping, customs, brokerage, fees, taxes, etc., you could have used it to buy a better more expensive high end scopes for the same cost theoretically. I honestly do not think it is worth the risk, which there are other better scope options out there on the market available in Canada with a peace of a mind warranty coverage, in case of product failures.

There is no electronics involved in SWFA SS scopes, they are simple and solid built optical/mechanical instruments. However and I did consider it before my purchases, should a problem arise, the procedure it to contact SWFA, they will initiate paper work and forward it to you due to ITAR regulation and then you ship it to them (I think but not sure) at your dime and they send it back to you at their dime.
 
The SWFA aren't even made at LOW?
That's disappointing.
The Israelis actually use their gear hard, so something they tested actually means something vs the "Navy" lol.

No, the exact plant that makes the fixed power SS is "A trade secret" according to the owner of SWFA and he's stated in the past it has nothing to do with LOW. However, there's been many customers south of the border that have received their scopes with the "made by Kenko optics" sticker still on the scope.

I'm sure that Hakko scope is fine, but what happens if it needs warranty work done? SWFA will take of you, will JLO? If a person really wants a fixed power tactical scope, SWFA is hard to beat. Bushnell Elite 10x and the Sightron S3 10x if you want to source something in Canada.
 
I bought 3 of the 20X scopes for target shooting. Many, many rounds through them and they have worked perfectly.

I don't think they are as sharp as some other scopes, but I bought them because they seemed to be simple and strong.

No regrets.

Does Vortex or Bushnesll make a single power around 20X ?
 
Still not seeing any legitimate examples of anything better in the same budget that people keep referring to.

LOL. That's because there aren't any comparables in the price bracket. Not with the track record for reliability the SS line has. A guy has to be trolling, delusional or senile to truly claim a $600 scope, from a long defunct manufacturer, is 'better'. Especially when the $600 price point is well above what a SS can be had for...

I don't think the SS line up is the best scope ever- as Ganderite noted, the higher mag models begin to show the mediocre-ish glass. But the 6x and 10x are quite clear- completely functional- and of the dozens I've been around, I've never seen one fail to function properly. (I've seen multiple higher priced, more 'modern' scopes fail in that time.) They offer incredible value, especially if purchased on sale. I own scopes I like way more, but they also cost at least 4x-10x what a SS goes for.

Group buy?
That's the best way to go. Get together with a bunch of friends or shooting acquaintances. Wait until SWFA's Black Friday sale and split on the shipping, etc. Purchasing that way saves a pile of cash. My first two were ~$350CDN to my door. So was my kid's first one. The 6x MQ I bought last year was closer to $425- mainly cause only a few of us went in on the buy, and our dollar's value bites. ;)
 
I didn't expect the thread to be so hot...Thanks everyone

Group buy is a good option.

Another question is 10 or 12 to buy?
 
I didn't expect the thread to be so hot...Thanks everyone

Group buy is a good option.

Another question is 10 or 12 to buy?

I've seen alot of review over the last years and it really seems like a very nice scope for the money.
They are often compared with higher end scopes. Definetly a reliable, rugged, long range capable scope.

From what I saw, the best pick is the 10X. With the 12X and 16X, reviewers says its less clear with those magnifications.

My personal choice would be the 10X with rear focus. If I'm not mistaken, this model is the original design over the newer side focus model.

The group buy is a good idea ! I will probably grab one... As Littleboylefty said, we should probably wait untill a special event discount.
 
I've seen alot of review over the last years and it really seems like a very nice scope for the money.
They are often compared with higher end scopes. Definetly a reliable, rugged, long range capable scope.

From what I saw, the best pick is the 10X. With the 12X and 16X, reviewers says its less clear with those magnifications.

My personal choice would be the 10X with rear focus. If I'm not mistaken, this model is the original design over the newer side focus model.

The group buy is a good idea ! I will probably grab one... As Littleboylefty said, we should probably wait untill a special event discount.

The special deals will be like $50 off from $299, but we have to wait until year end. Group buy is definitely a good idea...
 
The special deals will be like $50 off from $299, but we have to wait until year end. Group buy is definitely a good idea...

Last year the memorial day special was 10% off. The black friday one they included Rings, 30mm bubble level, 42mm sunshade, and a butler creek magazine loader at $259.95 USD.
 
I just ordered a basic 10x42, import fees were $80, all is well,

BUT

I just got word that customs is holding the package for 30 to 60 days for some unknown/undisclosed reason, it's even in Calgary already. Has this happened to anyone else?
 
I just ordered a basic 10x42, import fees were $80, all is well,

BUT

I just got word that customs is holding the package for 30 to 60 days for some unknown/undisclosed reason, it's even in Calgary already. Has this happened to anyone else?
They hold things for no apparent reason, for no apparent time line. Probably the same morons that held my front diff bushing for a week then tried to charge me storage fees!
 
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