C8

Hey guys I just got mine in the mail yesterday. I am going to share some pictures.


Here is the well worn upper.



Looks like m4 barrel extension and rifle upper. Interesting



On the bright side the bore is quiet nice



Nice staking job Diemaco........



Here is the Devtek D that we all love so much.



One thing about this C8 upper is that it is LIGHT and well balanced. Much more compact and balanced than my sa20. The upper it self as you can tell is beat to snot, I mean this thing has seen service, there was a healthy bit of rust and pitting when it first arrived. However it does look serviceable, I don't think it has been shot much, just carried and abused for 30 years, should make for a cool, retro beater rifle.
 
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Probably from older C8s that were sent back by military units in favour of the newer C8A3s. Colt Canada would have completely inspected and measured them before giving them the OK to be sold, so these uppers should be good to go.

These weren't released by Colt Canada or O'Dell and that's were the controversy lies.
 
The staking on the bolt carrier was done by a wpns tech and the middle centre punch mark indicates ejector spring update completed.

The CAF is too cheap to buy us proper gas key stalking tools :p
 
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You're assuming they went through Colt Canada before getting to sfrc...

These weren't released by Colt Canada or O'Dell and that's were the controversy lies.

That sucks.

The staking on the bolt carrier was done by a wpns tech and the middle centre punch mark indicates ejector spring update completed.

The CAF is too cheap to buy us proper gas key stalking tools :p

You don't need the proper staking tools. Why can I do a proper staking job that looks like a factory stake with a punch and a hammer but someone else can't? Like most people in our trade unfortunately, most of the weapons techs aren't gun nuts and are actually f**king sh*t at repairing weapons. At my current unit, where I was posted to replace 4 guys that were all transferring into other trades or were posted out, all of the weapons techs that transferred into other trades (thank god) were gigantic sh*tbags that would spend their days on Facebook and 9gag instead of working, and we have to pretty much fix everything they touched in the past. Using wrong springs and parts on purpose because they were lazy f*cks, to just not installing rubber seals or parts installed backwards in 25mm Bushmasters and small arms and putting serviceable tags with no names or dates (even though the weapons were garbage and far from serviceable) because they knew they were f*cktards.

I wish we could charge people entire years of salaries that they spent at units turning the shop into a sh*tbasket and f*cking up every weapon they touched, if they weren't on the internet in the first place. Posting this and getting this off my chest felt really good.

If that bolt carrier would have indeed passed by Colt Canada they would have actually staked it properly.
 
The staking on the bolt carrier was done by a wpns tech and the middle centre punch mark indicates ejector spring update completed.

The CAF is too cheap to buy us proper gas key stalking tools :p

Correct. Diemaco used a fixture and a machine to stake the key so as not to misalign it and identify manufacture location during the first phases of SARP. Diemaco carriers were staked at an angle to differentiate them from Colt who assembled the first pre-production C7/C8 carriers. The maintenance manual for armourers indicates staking should be done as shown by an armourer.

If you look at the front sight the arrow will be there but not the word "up" since it was not bilingual and was deleted from the CF TDP.

Some of the C8 barrels will have a 2 stamped on them near the barrel roll stamp to indicate improved carbine chamber - meaning they were re-barrelled. Original barrels without the 2 have rifle chambers.
 
That sucks.



You don't need the proper staking tools. Why can I do a proper staking job that looks like a factory stake with a punch and a hammer but someone else can't? Like most people in our trade unfortunately, most of the weapons techs aren't gun nuts and are actually f**king sh*t at repairing weapons. At my current unit, where I was posted to replace 4 guys that were all transferring into other trades or were posted out, all of the weapons techs that transferred into other trades (thank god) were gigantic sh*tbags that would spend their days on Facebook and 9gag instead of working, and we have to pretty much fix everything they touched in the past. Using wrong springs and parts on purpose because they were lazy f*cks, to just not installing rubber seals or parts installed backwards in 25mm Bushmasters and small arms and putting serviceable tags with no names or dates (even though the weapons were garbage and far from serviceable) because they knew they were f*cktards.

I wish we could charge people entire years of salaries that they spent at units turning the shop into a sh*tbasket and f*cking up every weapon they touched, if they weren't on the internet in the first place. Posting this and getting this off my chest felt really good.

If that bolt carrier would have indeed passed by Colt Canada they would have actually staked it properly.


Yeah that is insane, buy god the dirt bags that are out there amongst us.
 
If you look at the front sight the arrow will be there but not the word "up" since it was not bilingual and was deleted from the CF TDP.

Only in Canada. Guess the French wouldn't understand. :)
Grizz
 
Same in every trade. Most have no idea professional performance matters, or ability to produce same.

You know they say 20% of the people do 80% of the work

I had no idea the CAF armorers do not have access to the proper tools for staking. I guess the army is too clueless or cheap to buy them.

I will take it out to the range some time in april and do a range report.
 
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You don't need the proper staking tools. Why can I do a proper staking job that looks like a factory stake with a punch and a hammer but someone else can't? Like most people in our trade unfortunately, most of the weapons techs aren't gun nuts and are actually f**king sh*t at repairing weapons. At my current unit, where I was posted to replace 4 guys that were all transferring into other trades or were posted out, all of the weapons techs that transferred into other trades (thank god) were gigantic sh*tbags that would spend their days on Facebook and 9gag instead of working, and we have to pretty much fix everything they touched in the past. Using wrong springs and parts on purpose because they were lazy f*cks, to just not installing rubber seals or parts installed backwards in 25mm Bushmasters and small arms and putting serviceable tags with no names or dates (even though the weapons were garbage and far from serviceable) because they knew they were f*cktards.

I wish we could charge people entire years of salaries that they spent at units turning the shop into a sh*tbasket and f*cking up every weapon they touched, if they weren't on the internet in the first place. Posting this and getting this off my chest felt really good.

If that bolt carrier would have indeed passed by Colt Canada they would have actually staked it properly.[/QUOTE]

Those guys were only a reflection of their leadership; they either learned to act that way or were allowed to act that way, the real problem was their Sec 2I/C and Sec Comd who let that sh!t happen. Shame really.
 
Those guys were only a reflection of their leadership; they either learned to act that way or were allowed to act that way, the real problem was their Sec 2I/C and Sec Comd who let that sh!t happen. Shame really.

My thoughts exactly. Since my unit's shop now has 100% new guys, production is now normal, everything has been fixed (admin and work side) and the infanteers come in and are actually surprised that we aren't on Facebook all day. You know it was bad when outside people notice and comment on it.
 
You don't need the proper staking tools. Why can I do a proper staking job that looks like a factory stake with a punch and a hammer but someone else can't? Like most people in our trade unfortunately, most of the weapons techs aren't gun nuts and are actually f**king sh*t at repairing weapons. At my current unit, where I was posted to replace 4 guys that were all transferring into other trades or were posted out, all of the weapons techs that transferred into other trades (thank god) were gigantic sh*tbags that would spend their days on Facebook and 9gag instead of working, and we have to pretty much fix everything they touched in the past. Using wrong springs and parts on purpose because they were lazy f*cks, to just not installing rubber seals or parts installed backwards in 25mm Bushmasters and small arms and putting serviceable tags with no names or dates (even though the weapons were garbage and far from serviceable) because they knew they were f*cktards.

I wish we could charge people entire years of salaries that they spent at units turning the shop into a sh*tbasket and f*cking up every weapon they touched, if they weren't on the internet in the first place. Posting this and getting this off my chest felt really good.

If that bolt carrier would have indeed passed by Colt Canada they would have actually staked it properly.

Well, so much for don't air out your unit's dirty laundry on the internet.

Moe
 
Well here it is.
As you can tell from the pictures, I am pretty happy with my purchase
it is far better than I expected
bolt and bore are pristine
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