That would be much better until the counter gets busy with people looking at firearms and some poor dude is left waiting to buy a box of ammo and get on his way. Ammo only sales counter perhaps?
Cabela's policy ... by looks only?
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I thought about that on the way home, and could have very easily walked away. But once you invest 20 minutes of your time waiting there, plus the time spent driving to the location and on the phone the night before, I didn't want to make the trip a complete bust.
The good news is that the rifle is silky smooth and shoots like a dream.
I spent 35 minutes driving there after phoning them the night before to hold the rifle as it was their last one in stock. No small retailers had stock, and Canadian Tire was selling them for $200 more. So yeah, I bought the rifle. I wanted to walk away and make my point, but what good would that do?
As for sides to the story, I put his comments in my post.
"Tells me that it's store policy that you can't touch the action, and I was going to get him in trouble from his loss prevention officer who is watching the cameras"
Would you like to speak to the sales rep directly? Maybe you could do a little Stonehorse investigation of your own?
..... or you could stop being a douche and we could talk about how Cabelas store policy is garbage.
It's funny reading replies from some jackoff who thinks his opinion matters. You could speak to the manager, but what good is that going to do? All he is going to do is quote store policy and tell me I was wrong. The whole point of my post here was to tell others that Cabelas store policy does not allow a customer to PROVE the gun is safe before handling it.
Maybe next time you could make a sandwich instead of replying to my post with this garbage. You can take EL34 with you since he's posting nothing important either.
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So you don't like contrary opinions and got your feelings hurt. Too bad for you. What you should have done was ask to speak with a manager at that moment. You could have said your piece and still purchased the rifle. You choose not to do that. But to come here and whine about it instead. Have a nice day sunshine.
Levers are awkward to prove though.
Most lever guns will have both a trigger lock and cable lock wrapped through the lever/action. This is due to trigger locks falling off as soon as you open the action.
Again, all locked up due to proximity to ammunition.
Most lever guns will have both a trigger lock and cable lock wrapped through the lever/action. This is due to trigger locks falling off as soon as you open the action.
Again, all locked up due to proximity to ammunition.
That is probably what happened to hypa. Trigger lock but no cable lock or cable tie and the sales person asked him/her for the gun back when the lever action was opened.
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On point with the OPI just had the same experience at whole sale sports.
I was looking at a canik pistol, I heard theywere good, but the triger wasn't for everyone. AS a triger makes or breaks a pistol for me (can't group for #### if i have a bad triger) I wanted to try it out... nope, with the manager, nope. I even sade you can hold onto the guns action while i pull the triger... nope.
I finished with "you know you are going to loose a sale over this right? "
The manager and employee said "well we are sorry to hear that"
I shook the managers hand told him thanks for his time and walked away.
I will not buy a pistol without trying out the action and triger....
its weird because when i worked there a few years ago, the triger looks were for storage purpose not to prevent the customers from doing something stupid. if a customer wanted to try a triger out we pulled the lock off, told them to keep it pointed over the counter, when they were finished we put the lock back on
I was looking at a canik pistol, I heard theywere good, but the triger wasn't for everyone. AS a triger makes or breaks a pistol for me (can't group for #### if i have a bad triger) I wanted to try it out... nope, with the manager, nope. I even sade you can hold onto the guns action while i pull the triger... nope.
I finished with "you know you are going to loose a sale over this right? "
The manager and employee said "well we are sorry to hear that"
I shook the managers hand told him thanks for his time and walked away.
I will not buy a pistol without trying out the action and triger....
its weird because when i worked there a few years ago, the triger looks were for storage purpose not to prevent the customers from doing something stupid. if a customer wanted to try a triger out we pulled the lock off, told them to keep it pointed over the counter, when they were finished we put the lock back on
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I had an interesting conversation with a Cabela's employee in Nanaimo the other day, I had asked why they had such a poor selection of black rifles or tactical gear. He stated that the national buyer for Cabela's doesn't believe that anyone should own anything other than Fudd type rifles. He as an employee is very frustrated with both the attitude of the national buyer (as he very much likes black rifles) and the large amount of business they loose on a daily basis. Really bad business practice IMO, as virtually all my business goes elsewhere!!
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That is exactly what happened. No mention of the store policy, plus he didn't put the cable lock on so I had no idea. But his reaction was to bark at me like I was trying to load the gun in the middle of the store, which made for awkward looks from the other 20 customers at the gun counter. It was 9:30 on a saturday morning, the sun was shining, and I wasn't expecting to get barked at before having my morning coffee.
I'm not one to post this kind of thing. One quick look at my history and you'll see my focus is on building my T97, modifying 10/22, and trying to get better at reloading. But it was my first time in one of the big box gun stores and I wanted to see how many others had a similar experience. Honestly, for a minute there I felt like I really messed up. Then I came to my senses and realized that their store policy is garbage and goes against the four vital ACTS of firearm safety, #1 which is Assume every firearm is loaded.
Maybe I should have supported Canadian Tire, or simply waited until a small retailer got stock.
Oh well, it's bought and paid for now and I plan on shooting it this afternoon. All should be good once I get a few rounds through the pipe.
So basically the counter guy screwed up by not adding a cable tie with the trigger lock so that you would have not been able to open the action. I can now understand your reaction as well as his. Given the fact ammo is readily available in the customer area and he has no idea who you are or what are your intentions.
I have since learned if someone wants to try out the trigger or work the action, just ask to use the gun library office. Up to the sales person discretion I'm told and of course you will not be left alone. That solves the problem of not being able to check trigger pull and work the action on a lever gun.
This and 100 other retail gun store stories plus my own experience is why Id rather send some stranger off the EE a 1500$ EMT than subject myself to the gun store experience.
If you have a good gun store, support it, because IME and obviously the experience of many its a rare thing.
I also find the amount of approval shown here for restrictive sales policies to people who have already demonstrated themselves to have firearms licenses disappointing.
"The ammo is unlocked!" or "they might have a round in their pocket!" is not the reason to reject a vetted customer from handling an unloaded gun.
"What if" policy making is the scourge of the gun community. "Proposing" or "Supposing" all these things that might go wrong is exactly the type of decision making that makes for the silly laws we have now.
Don't play along, and don't perpetuate it. You think it does the plight of gun owners any good telling everyone about all these (alleged) horrendous bloody suicides in Cabelas?
If you have a good gun store, support it, because IME and obviously the experience of many its a rare thing.
I also find the amount of approval shown here for restrictive sales policies to people who have already demonstrated themselves to have firearms licenses disappointing.
"The ammo is unlocked!" or "they might have a round in their pocket!" is not the reason to reject a vetted customer from handling an unloaded gun.
"What if" policy making is the scourge of the gun community. "Proposing" or "Supposing" all these things that might go wrong is exactly the type of decision making that makes for the silly laws we have now.
Don't play along, and don't perpetuate it. You think it does the plight of gun owners any good telling everyone about all these (alleged) horrendous bloody suicides in Cabelas?
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Just suppose for a moment the unthinkable does happen. Bass Pro just recently purchased Cabela's for 5.5 BILLION dollars (US). If someone did pull a suicide or went postal on other customers, the lineup of lawyers suing Cabela's would be out the door. Just last week, there is a Muslim in the states suing a major pizza chain (Pizza Hut?) for 100 million dollars because there MAY have been pork on the pizza he ordered. I don't blame a company for taking precautions.
Try and get millions out of Mom & Pop Guns n' Ammo if the sh!t hits the fan.
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They DO take precautions. Where has anyone or the OP suggested no precautions? Other stores, and Cabelas, speak with the customer to determine their intent, they request a license, they supervise the handling, they surveil and record the interaction without getting sued, why must Cabelas have more restrictive handling?
Does it strike anyone as odd or hypocritical that Cabelas is so terrified of their customers they wont let one touch a gun in the store unloaded, supervised, after proving you were licensed, and on camera BUT if you give them some money you can take it home with you and do whatever you want with it? Think about it, if you have such grave misgivings about someone that you won't let them TOUCH a gun, how can you in good conscience SELL them a gun? That comment is a little over the top, I'm just pointing out that eventually, that trigger lock is coming off. The real, actual vetting Cabelas does is exchange the gun for the money, the same customer that couldn't handle the gun before the sale is the same guy that can handle the gun after the credit card goes through. So what changed..how come now the guy is OK to take the trigger lock off? He could still 'go postal' even though he has a credit card. Do you think a guy that's going to 'pull a suicide' worries about next months bill lol?
I have bolded the 'IFs' and the 'supposition' in your post. What if this happened, what if that happened? We should make rules and laws 'just in case something might happen'? 'Suppose' this happened or that happened..what then? Rules and laws should be made for things that happened, not things that might happen.
A guy sued a pizza chain THEREFORE customers can't handle guns in Cabelas. There will always be litigious idiots. Making policy because of them is a win for the litigious idiots and a loss for regular decent people.
Don't perpetuate that either. Again, posting about suicides and people 'going postal' is terrible talk for the gun community. Every time you say it it gathers more steam, and makes more people think about the potential harm and negative aspects of gun ownership for civilians.
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That is because sometimes bad things happen to good people. Regardless of what you or anyone else says or thinks is terrible talk.
To get back on track, it is my understanding that if you want to try out the trigger pull on a firearm or work the action on a lever gun, just ask about using the gun library office. Problem solved.
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You got it!
I walked in to the store well dressed, and with a smile on my face. Why not be happy? I was getting a new gun, and I was excited. I definitely didn't fit the look of a guy who would take his own life in the middle of a store. Not only that, but I showed him my RPAL prior to touching the rifle, so there was really no reason for him to be defensive about it. In fact, his words to me weren't even based on gun safety. He was worried that he was going to get into trouble from the loss prevention guys. So he made a scene not because of a lack of safety on my part, but because of bureaucracy. That's such a dirty word for gun owners.
Well said, man.
How many hoops do I have do jump through to prove that I'm not a threat?
Exactly!
They have a firm policy of no returns on firearms, yet they don't let you properly inspect the firearm before buying it.
The more I think about it, the more I realize that Cabelas can kiss my ass.
