'Cadet' Lee Enfields (.22)

Further to the C-10 question. They were a great rifle, about 80% parts interchangability with the C-7. The problem? A F@#$ing politition saw them and when balistic...."There is no way children are going to use that thing!"
What a shame, I don't know if Diemaco kept them in production or not. One of the reasons that Colt was able to aquire Diemaco so easily was that the feds had an agreement with Diemaco that they were not allowed to sell guns or parts to we the unwashed. So how do you keep your company in business when you can only sell to the goverment and government agencies?

Scott
 
curtton said:
ps. im not trying to spook you, lol....the cadet from port moody army cadet that came in 6th in the BC provincial and didnt make it into the composite team to shoot at the nationals, well, he scored 381/400 so you can imagine how strong of a team BC has.
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I had 3 members of my team qualify this weekend for the Ontario Composite Teams for the Cadet National Championships this May:rockOn:. My team placed 2nd over-all. My Junior got in with a 379/400 my 2 senior shooters with 386/400 and a 388/400. Team score was 1528/1600.
Winning Ontario team shot 1551/1600.
By my team placing 2nd, I will be going to the Nationals to coach one of the Ontario Composite Teams. Not that big of a deal trip wise, it is an hour down the road from me this year:mad:
 
The other Canadian trainer
Cooey M82
This one has the nicest walnut stock of all my rifles.
Very accurate.
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Here it is matched up with a Canadian Longbranch No4Mk1*

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So does anyone recall ever shooting the M82 Coey in their cadet corps? My understanding was that they were relegated to "drill use" status in either the late 40s or 50s, and that the Cno7 fullfilled the cadet rifle needs.
My old air cadet squadron had some of these with the bolts missing, purely for drill.
 
smgcon said:
Splatter:

The C7 still cannot be fired on the range at Vernon. The range is open currently for .22 at less than 100m, but not for 5.56mm at 100m. I am hoping the range template for 5.56mm will be approved in time for summer, but I am not holding my breath. The C7 were being shot a range in the area that DND is leasing for the summer. They also used it for the spring rifle shoot this year.

The problem is that a new subdivision was built on private land beyond the backstop, and falls within the riccochet template for 5.56mm when fired from 100, 200, and 300m. The plan will be to limit elevation from less than 100M to prevent firing over the backstop.

Everyone else:

With respect to the indoor military ranges, they simply didn't meet air quality requirements. Airborne lead levels were too high. With civil liability law suits at an all time high in Canada, I guess the government didn't want to have to pay out millions in damages 25 yrs from now when the cancers started showing up.
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to add what smgcon said c7's are not fired at the cadet range. last year they shipped the CLI's to a private range in a neighbouring town.
also cadets in england (national shooting team of canada) shoots the c12 bolt action rifle
 
When I was in Cadets..20 years ago we spent every saturday at the range with the .22's. I can't believe even the cadets are getting hosed...fuciking liberals
 
smgcon said:
Strangeday:

We still shoot the .22 No7 rifles as well as the Anschutz quite frequently. The problem is Health Canada and unsafe lead levels not firearms law. It is a matter of just shooting outdoors.

The legal liability for lung cancers is what is driving the lead issue, not the actual shooting activity. We shot indoors as cadets as well in the mid 70's, however those days are over. I am not so sure I would be that happy having my kids shoot in poorly ventilated indoor ranges now either. We are all a little bit better informed now.

The Navy League has Cooey mod 82's as drill rifles in Kelowna.
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but in the city , open range are becoming fewer .

if its a question of liablity then why wont pacific region approve the cadets using an APPROVED civilian indoor range?? they have in the past.
 
Prometheus said:
but in the city , open range are becoming fewer .

if its a question of liablity then why wont pacific region approve the cadets using an APPROVED civilian indoor range?? they have in the past.
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There are ways around this. If it is not an "official cadet activity".....
I have done this lots of times and stress to the parents that it is not a "Cadet Activity". I have never had a parent refuse to let the kid participate and most parents even stay and watch.
We have had the cadets out shooting trap, pistol, .22 rifle and I even took two, to a long range team match a few years ago. I gave them the rifle and put to proper elevation on and the team coach took care of getting them in the middle. After shooting a .308 at 1000 yards, with iron sights and hitting the target, you couldn't wipe the smiles off their faces.
 
I'm a CO of an Air Cadet unit in BC. I personally wouldn't be shooting with my cadets at a "non-cadet" activity. You can word things however you want but when things go down hill and push comes to shove, it's your neck on the line.

As far as Air Cadets not shooting .22's, there is at least one unit that shoot's out of North Van now that they are open again and several units that shoot .22's out of Burke Mountain. They are both outdoor ranges of course.

Also, our region just had a small bore RSO course this past weekend. I know DND isn't supporting the program nationally but it sounds like regions still have some flexibility to continue the program if they choose.

My unit unfortunately doesn't even shoot air rifles because of our facilities. Our parade facility and extra caricular facilities will not allow the use of any guns including air rifles. I will however try and get into burke mountain at this point :)


*** Also, does anyone know where I can find some drill purpose Lee Enfields???
I'm about to lose mine and we need at least 4!
 
trader37 said:
I'm a CO of an Air Cadet unit in BC. I personally wouldn't be shooting with my cadets at a "non-cadet" activity. You can word things however you want but when things go down hill and push comes to shove, it's your neck on the line.

As far as Air Cadets not shooting .22's, there is at least one unit that shoot's out of North Van now that they are open again and several units that shoot .22's out of Burke Mountain. They are both outdoor ranges of course.

Also, our region just had a small bore RSO course this past weekend. I know DND isn't supporting the program nationally but it sounds like regions still have some flexibility to continue the program if they choose.

My unit unfortunately doesn't even shoot air rifles because of our facilities. Our parade facility and extra caricular facilities will not allow the use of any guns including air rifles. I will however try and get into burke mountain at this point :)


*** Also, does anyone know where I can find some drill purpose Lee Enfields???
I'm about to lose mine and we need at least 4!
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yes, the north van range was recently opened but just on weekends only.

can you explain why you couldnt shoot air in your facility? lack of space?

also why are you losing your LE? is it just your corp? :confused:
 
Try asking the guys at 637. I know they were looking for DP rifles a couple years ago, so you can see if they've found some by now... If not, then you guys can start looking for a larger group buy.:)
 
chanman said:
Try asking the guys at 637. I know they were looking for DP rifles a couple years ago, so you can see if they've found some by now... If not, then you guys can start looking for a larger group buy.:)
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That's funny. I am the guy at 637. I managed to find some from a sea cadet unit. They unfortunately want them back. They are supposed to be back in the system for Air Cadets but they're having troubles with issuing them.

As far as not being able to shoot air rifles, it's not lack of space it's lack of support from the owners of the facility.
 
maynard said:
Lack of range facility to shoot .22 is the biggest concern.
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The BRRC rifle section has some spare range time on Wed. nights, typically in june, july and august. Typically we don't run full relays in the summer months, so there would be room for a few cadets to jump on a port. They'd need to supply their own rifles and kit.

If I wanted to explore volunteering some of my time to Iron Duke or Burlington Armoury, who would I call?
 
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