Neither of those items were specifically designed for or used by a firearm, unlike a scope, rings, mags, and so on.......
Can I buy a scope mount in the states and drive back with it?
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Neither of those items were specifically designed for or used by a firearm, unlike a scope, rings, mags, and so on.......
sillymike
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
1. It doesn't have to make sense... it's government rules and regulations.
2. Easy, find out if the factory making the part you want is on the approved exporter list.
3. Send in the appropriate paperwork.
I know, this might be a pain in the but... but the alternative is (getting in trouble with the US border patrol, ATF and god only knows who else) is a whole lot worst.
Jordan Smith
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Calgary, AB
Jordan Smith
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Calgary, AB
Really? Where do they draw the line?
I don't know.....
Ask them when your crossing the border with your goodies and I am sure they will let you know.....
but somewhere, there are lists of items not allowed, and of items that are allowed, where is this list, I don't know, perhaps you can find it..
Let us know how you make out
Ok so I made a ton of phone calls and got no where. Americans really don't want to deal with Canadians. When I called the manufacturer, he give me #### about us not going to iraq with them! So I said, after you killed a bunch of our boys with "friendly fire" we thought twice about going with you guys again. He promptly hung up the phone on me!!!! So I think I'm just gonna go with something that is built here or in europe, to much hassle... Thanks for all the help and info guys.
- Location
- AB foothills
Please don't discuss illegal exporting of scope mounts here guys. Please keep it legal as per our rules. Post removed.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Really? Where do they draw the line?
A flashlight is a flashlight. If a mount is made to attach it to a gun, the flashlight is still a flashlight because it's still a flashlight, but the mount is a gun part because it was made to be attached to a gun. If the flashlight was made with a mount integrated to attach to a gun, then the whole thing becomes a gun part - a weapon light.
A knife is a knife. An edged weapon for stabbing and/or slashing, made with an integral mount to attach it to a gun is a bayonet.
and people with hands to hold the gun a gun parts as well
no, neither a flashlight with mount, nor bayonet are gun parts. they are accessories. The gun parts are parts that the gun is made of...but try to explain it to the border guys
F22_RaptoR
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Edmonton, Alberta
Its not always so clear.
I bought a Daniel Defense PAK flashlight mount from Brownells, and a Magpul AFG.
the AFG was considered a "gun part" and listed as such, however the Daniel Defense PAK was not, and the overall order was 120 bucks or so, and it got through with full declaration.
I have also checked into some scope accessories, like the Tactical Night Vision Company "SAP" or whatever it is called. Its a little 30mm scope ring with a picatinny rail built-in, to put secondary optics on.
These did not have the "gun parts" notification either.
I think the deal goes, if its an accessory for a SCOPE, then its not considered a gun part. If its a gun accessory by itself, (like buttstock, pistol grip, railed forend) then its going to be tagged.
You could TRY and say its an airsoft scope mount, and even print off an ad for a fake LaRue on some airsoft site, and take it with you.... Bad Juju if they find out tho.
Personally, dont bother with LaRue and go with American Defense. They are a good company that not only ships and services Canadians, but actually care about us, as well as other international sales!
Arms East carries them, they are very VERY well made mounts!
I bought a Daniel Defense PAK flashlight mount from Brownells, and a Magpul AFG.
the AFG was considered a "gun part" and listed as such, however the Daniel Defense PAK was not, and the overall order was 120 bucks or so, and it got through with full declaration.
I have also checked into some scope accessories, like the Tactical Night Vision Company "SAP" or whatever it is called. Its a little 30mm scope ring with a picatinny rail built-in, to put secondary optics on.
These did not have the "gun parts" notification either.
I think the deal goes, if its an accessory for a SCOPE, then its not considered a gun part. If its a gun accessory by itself, (like buttstock, pistol grip, railed forend) then its going to be tagged.
You could TRY and say its an airsoft scope mount, and even print off an ad for a fake LaRue on some airsoft site, and take it with you.... Bad Juju if they find out tho.
Personally, dont bother with LaRue and go with American Defense. They are a good company that not only ships and services Canadians, but actually care about us, as well as other international sales!
Arms East carries them, they are very VERY well made mounts!
and people with hands to hold the gun a gun parts as well
no, neither a flashlight with mount, nor bayonet are gun parts. they are accessories. The gun parts are parts that the gun is made of...but try to explain it to the border guys
No, hands aren't made for holding guns. Hands are made to be hands. The reason they can be used for holding guns is that the guns were designed to be held by hands.
You have grasped the essence of it: it's what the border enforcement people think it is.
My point was, there is a logical basis for analysing how they are going to classify things. If the aspects that make something attach to the gun are built into the flashlight or knife, the flashlight will be considered a weaponlight and the knife a bayonet, and these "accessories" will be considered gun parts. If they can only attach with duct tape, they are still a flashlight and a knife.
Your citizenship or place of residence is irrelevant. If the proscribed goods are moved across the border, they are exported. With the right permits, it's legal, no matter who does it. Without the right permits, it's illegal, no matter who does it.
