can I zero at 100 yards with 40 MOA base with 65 MOA elevation scope?

Understood. In that case, it's very unlikely you'll be able to make it zero, even at 100y..
My reply was in response to Longstud suggesting that 60MOA cant and zeroing at 50y was rare if not impossible.

Cheers
Maybe my point wasn’t made clearly. If the ops original post is read he is asking if his particular rifle will be able to be zeroed at 100 yards with a scope with 65 moa of travel with a 40 moa rail. NO it won’t. But if we change scopes then that’s a different thing. The op also thinks I bashed his scope, which I didn’t. Owned and still own manyVortex optics.
 
As explained earlier, if the .22LR rifle in question has no significant bore-to-receiver misalignment, it can be zeroed at 100 yards with a 40 MOA rail and a scope with 65 MOA adjustment. It will have about 6 - 8 MOA adjustment range remaining.
 
The vortex diamondback scope is a great little scope. Having owned one and having used it at max elevation, I can confirm that the image quality is severely impacted when approaching the maximum mechanical limits of the turrets. The glass just can't handle being that much out. If you are going to be using a scope close to it's elevation limits, it will need to be a better scope (like the NX8) otherwise you will have a hard time seeing what you are shooting and being able to identify targets properly.
 
The vortex diamondback scope is a great little scope. Having owned one and having used it at max elevation, I can confirm that the image quality is severely impacted when approaching the maximum mechanical limits of the turrets. The glass just can't handle being that much out. If you are going to be using a scope close to it's elevation limits, it will need to be a better scope (like the NX8) otherwise you will have a hard time seeing what you are shooting and being able to identify targets properly.

yeah, I had the same observation on this diamondback scope. That's why I got a NX8 to match the new rifle, at least in dollar amount, not sure about quality yet.
I have yet got the scope but got the rifle already and it looks pretty neat. I will wait the new scope to be mounted before taking this rifle to range then.
 
I shimmed my 20MOA base on my B22 and gained another 23MOA. With my Viper 6-20 with 65MOA I was able to zero at 50 with about 5MOA left.
 
As explained earlier, if the .22LR rifle in question has no significant bore-to-receiver misalignment, it can be zeroed at 100 yards with a 40 MOA rail and a scope with 65 MOA adjustment. It will have about 6 - 8 MOA adjustment range remaining.

HUH. Well coming from a fossil thats never shot past 100 yards or even knows what a sloped rail is, thats the pot calling the kettle black, LITERALLY, So EINSTEIN .talkin math here! Hows the numbers adding up on a scope with 65 moa total travel which is 32.5 up and the same down gonna line up at 100 yards? Pretty sure your gonna come up short about 7.5 MOA. Oh maybe youve got friends with Burris XTR rings. Un believable but not really considering. I do have holidays still available??
 
HUH. Well coming from a fossil thats never shot past 100 yards or even knows what a sloped rail is, thats the pot calling the kettle black, LITERALLY, So EINSTEIN .talkin math here! Hows the numbers adding up on a scope with 65 moa total travel which is 32.5 up and the same down gonna line up at 100 yards? Pretty sure your gonna come up short about 7.5 MOA. Oh maybe youve got friends with Burris XTR rings. Un believable but not really considering. I do have holidays still available??
I understand 40-32.5=7.5 is where you got the number from.
But remember this, 22lr bullet drops more than 10 inches at 100 yards
 
Jesus, just shoot it and see where the F’n thing goes at 100. Zeroing at 100 isn’t the end of the world if your optic has a Christmas tree reticle. Learning to use holdovers is critical to being CRPS match awesome.
 
HUH. Well coming from a fossil thats never shot past 100 yards or even knows what a sloped rail is, thats the pot calling the kettle black, LITERALLY, So EINSTEIN .talkin math here! Hows the numbers adding up on a scope with 65 moa total travel which is 32.5 up and the same down gonna line up at 100 yards? Pretty sure your gonna come up short about 7.5 MOA. Oh maybe youve got friends with Burris XTR rings. Un believable but not really considering. I do have holidays still available??

Your dumbfounded response clearly speaks volumes. A further explanation seems necessary.

A standard velocity bullet from a .22LR rifle with zero elevation will drop about 16.7 inches at 100 yards. (See the ballistics chart in post #10.)

A 40 MOA rail and a scope that hasn't been adjusted for any elevation. This will raise the bullet's point of impact by about 40 inches.

Put the drop and the raise together. The bullet now strikes about 23.3" high. (This comes from 40" minus 16.7" = 23.3 inches.) Adjust the scope to lower the point of impact by about 23 -24 inches and the rifle and scope with a 40 MOA rail will be zeroed at 100 yards.

With a scope that has 65 MOA of adjustment, if all things are even that means about 32.5 MOA adjustment up and 32.5 MOA adjustment down. Since the scope adjustment is about 23 - 24 inches down, it should have about 6 - 8 MOA (should be closer to 8) adjustment remaining.

Longstud, as suggested in another response to your reactions to my posts, it may serve you well to put me on ignore. It could spare you potential embarassment. In other recent threads unrelated to me you've done enough of that.

Perhaps those holidays you say you have available should be used sooner rather than later. Resting wouldn't be a bad thing.
 
No need to argue anymore, guys.
I just came back from range, at 100 yards I zeroed it with only 5 shots, and still have about 5 MOA left at the bottom.
So the math checks out, 12-13 inches bullets drop at 100 yards plus the bottom 32.5 from scope minus 40 MOA from the rail, that’s 5 MOA.

Sorry to disturb you, I didn’t expect this question can cause this kind of rhetoric exchange. It’s purely a technical discussion.

Anyway, my 90 MOA NX8 is coming next week. I know I will have about 17 MOA below and 73 MOA above left after it’s zeroed at 100 yards.
 
Thanks for taking the time to go to the range and put this to bed!!!!!!

The NX8 will be much clearer glass, plus will give you the ability to dial out, if you want to play at distance.
 
Thanks for taking the time to go to the range and put this to bed!!!!!!

The NX8 will be much clearer glass, plus will give you the ability to dial out, if you want to play at distance.

Here is the story why I asked this question here before going to range trying it out.
When I asked the dealer to build the gun I specifically asked for 20MOA rail. But not until I received the gun this past Monday had I realized it was still 40moa. This gun has a standard action but weirdly the holes drilled on top of the action have the distance nowhere else can be found. I couldn’t find an aftermarket 20MOA rail to replace it. And it turns out dealer is out of stock for this rail and can only ask the manufacturer to ship to me. We all know how difficult and slow it is to get an American gun make to ship a part.
So I immediately bought a nightforce nx8 because I know according to my math zeroing at 100 yards with 40MOA will be very close. Meanwhile I had communication back and forth with the dealer and manufacturer, and they finally agreed to ship one 20moa to me but it can take months to arrive.
I’m debating should I keep 40moa or swap to 20moa and return 40moa.
 
We all knew you could zero at 100.

I would keep the 40 moa rail since you'll be using a nx8. Will allow you to go for really long distance if you choose to :)
 
Your dumbfounded response clearly speaks volumes. A further explanation seems necessary.

A standard velocity bullet from a .22LR rifle with zero elevation will drop about 16.7 inches at 100 yards. (See the ballistics chart in post #10.)

A 40 MOA rail and a scope that hasn't been adjusted for any elevation. This will raise the bullet's point of impact by about 40 inches.

Put the drop and the raise together. The bullet now strikes about 23.3" high. (This comes from 40" minus 16.7" = 23.3 inches.) Adjust the scope to lower the point of impact by about 23 -24 inches and the rifle and scope with a 40 MOA rail will be zeroed at 100 yards.

With a scope that has 65 MOA of adjustment, if all things are even that means about 32.5 MOA adjustment up and 32.5 MOA adjustment down. Since the scope adjustment is about 23 - 24 inches down, it should have about 6 - 8 MOA (should be closer to 8) adjustment remaining.

Longstud, as suggested in another response to your reactions to my posts, it may serve you well to put me on ignore. It could spare you potential embarassment. In other recent threads unrelated to me you've done enough of that.

Perhaps those holidays you say you have available should be used sooner rather than later. Resting wouldn't be a bad thing.

Well unfortunately I cant ignore when others Hit the reply with quote! As far as your previous inquiry about buying more ammo. Id shoot what you have while your able . YMOF. Still never responded too your poor shooting with the same ammo and same rifle. Those erratic results dont speak volumes for you! This coming from the person you accused of being a pervert when the ideas where spawned by you!!! Also the A Hxle who accused a member of being an outrite liar of not owning the guns he spoke of . Your UN FUKXNG believable and so arrogant you think its acceptable. Hopefully the lot of ammo expires after you do. I wont miss you as well as many others I susapect
 
Well unfortunately I cant ignore when others Hit the reply with quote! As far as your previous inquiry about buying more ammo. Id shoot what you have while your able . YMOF. Still never responded too your poor shooting with the same ammo and same rifle. Those erratic results dont speak volumes for you! This coming from the person you accused of being a pervert when the ideas where spawned by you!!! Also the A Hxle who accused a member of being an outrite liar of not owning the guns he spoke of . Your UN FUKXNG believable and so arrogant you think its acceptable. Hopefully the lot of ammo expires after you do. I wont miss you as well as many others I susapect

I may be mistaken but I believe if you read post 31 it shows that grauhanen was correct.
 
Understood. In that case, it's very unlikely you'll be able to make it zero, even at 100y..
My reply was in response to Longstud suggesting that 60MOA cant and zeroing at 50y was rare if not impossible.

Cheers

Your problem is your bouncing back and forth between MOA and MRAD. Theres a major difference
 
Well unfortunately I cant ignore when others Hit the reply with quote! As far as your previous inquiry about buying more ammo. Id shoot what you have while your able . YMOF. Still never responded too your poor shooting with the same ammo and same rifle. Those erratic results dont speak volumes for you! This coming from the person you accused of being a pervert when the ideas where spawned by you!!! Also the A Hxle who accused a member of being an outrite liar of not owning the guns he spoke of . Your UN FUKXNG believable and so arrogant you think its acceptable. Hopefully the lot of ammo expires after you do. I wont miss you as well as many others I susapect

This stream of consciousness has no place on a firearms forum. It has the potential to sound like unhealthy and unhinged incoherence.

To help yourself, please put me on ignore.
 
Just answer the question.

You should be able to do it.
From previous experience, some distortion appeared in the outer limits of the sight picture.

Thought for the day: You will never win a pi$$ing contest with a $kunk!
 
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