Can primers be stored in a steel cabinet?

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I was pretty sure that I read a post here from someone who stored their powder in a 3/4" plywood box with brass fittings and primers separately in a steel cabinet with his ammo.

I've got some left over 3/4" plywood from building my desk: 4x2 ft, and I'm trying to use it to build a small box for powder. Would help me if I can store primers in my stack on ammo cabinet for now.

Is this legal?
 
I keep mine in their original packaging inside of a cardboard box. Then the whole thing is then stored in a metal locked cabinet. I believe the cardboard to be like an insulator! Been stored like this for yrs without any issues.....
 
one of the idea's behind wood as it does not contain the burn of powder and primers it will vent at a lower pressure than steel or metal , that way the pressure will not increase the burn rate of contained powders and explode.
 
My primers are in their original boxes on a shelf beside my stock of bullets. Live ammunition is stored elsewhere, and powder somewhere else again.
 
I keep mine in a box composed of a titanium outer shell, followed by 24" of concrete and then lined with 3" solid oak. Brass hinges of course...lol
On a serious note I just keep them in a drawer in my reloading desk or in the steel cabinet with my powder in the original package of course. Never worried about it.
 
As an American who watched many episodes of Red Green I store my primers outside in a metal cabinet that has a 40 foot tower with a lighting rod connected to the cabinet. I then wrap my primers with twenty layers of duct tape and store them next to my gas cans for the lawn mower.

I mean if you can't trust Canadian educational TV there is something very wrong in the world. :cheers:

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I keep mine in a box composed of a titanium outer shell, followed by 24" of concrete and then lined with 3" solid oak. Brass hinges of course...lol
On a serious note I just keep them in a drawer in my reloading desk or in the steel cabinet with my powder in the original package of course. Never worried about it.

I keep mine in the fridge, next to the beer.
 
Sorry I don't mean to hijack your posting, BUT you Canadians can have assault rifles and they are planning to take ours away. Below is the American regulations on powder storage and it is much less strict than yours.

How strange, we are free to blow ourselves up with powder in the U.S. but assault rifles are harmful to your health. It must be the difference between ObamaCare and socialized medicine. :bangHead:

10-3.7 Smokeless propellants intended for personal use in quantities not exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg) may be stored in original containers in residences. Quantities exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg), but not exceeding 50 lb (22.7 kg), may be stored in residences if kept in a wooden box or cabinet having walls or at least 1-inch. (25.4-mm) nominal thickness.
 
Those are all better responses than I had ever expected. I was under the impression that we are REQUIRED by the explosives act to store powder and primers in a 3/4" wooden box with brass fittings.

See the following article by Edward Burlew L.L.B.

What am I missing?

While Mr Burlew provided an excellent summary of the old act, he left out that 3/4" plywood is just a suggestion. The old act vaguely specifies "should be made of substantial material." That's it. I use an old fibreglass barracks box with brass fittings for powder and a large plastic ammo box for primers. Of course they're locked and clearly marked "Explosives" and they're removable in the event of a fire. Stay away from cabinets bolted to the wall.
 
While Mr Burlew provided an excellent summary of the old act, he left out that 3/4" plywood is just a suggestion. The old act vaguely specifies "should be made of substantial material." That's it. I use an old fibreglass barracks box with brass fittings for powder and a large plastic ammo box for primers. Of course they're locked and clearly marked "Explosives" and they're removable in the event of a fire. Stay away from cabinets bolted to the wall.

Is there a new act and/or an explanation to what it says. Trying to figure out what is required by law vs. suggestions / best practise.
 
There are a bunch of threads here and in other sections on this subject. Search is your friend. Here's the link for the proposed Act. Both the old and new acts are confusing as to what sections pertain to what. Read carefully and make sure you're concentrating on the appropriate sections. Sometimes a section or sub-section is discussed in more detail 20+ pages after you thought the section was done.
 
When reading any Federal Government regulations, consider the fact that if the words "shall" and "will" are used, that they are Mandatory. Otherwise to my knowledge anything else is purely a suggestion.
 
I've gone through the painful task of going through the proposed Act as it pertains to powder, primers and cartridges for shmoes like me storing them in a house a.k.a. dwelling.

My reading of this tells me that Joe reloader can store up to 25kg of powder, of which up to 5kg may be black powder and primers and cartridges in his house so long as it is:
- Stored away from flammable stuff
- Stored in a manner that prevents it from easily being stolen
- Stored in a manner that prevents 'unauthorized' access to it.

i.e. I can store all of: 25 kg of powder, unspecific number primers and cartridges TOGETHER in a locked STEEL box if I so desire. I may choose to do something different, like store them separately, in 3/4" plywood wood boxes with non ferrous fittings (or titanium boxes or beer fridges) but NONE of this is REQUIRED under the proposed act.

Just trying to separate the facts from what people believe or have been told. I'm happy to be corrected if these facts are wrong.

Here are what I believe to be the relevant sections:


Detached dwelling

301. No more than 25 kg of propellant powder, of which no more than 5 kg may be black powder, may be stored at any one time in a detached dwelling or a storage unit that is attached to a dwelling.

Other dwellings — smokeless powder

302. (1) The maximum quantity of smokeless powder that may be stored at any one time in a dwelling that is located in a building containing other dwellings is

(a) 20 kg, if all the powder is in containers that hold no more than 1 kg; or

(b) 5 kg, if any of the powder is in a container that holds more than 1 kg.
Other dwellings — black powder

(2) The maximum quantity of black powder that may be stored at any one time in a dwelling that is located in a building containing other dwellings is

(a) 1 kg, if the black powder is in containers; or

(b) 3 kg less any quantity that is in containers, if the black powder is in small arms cartridges or black powder cartouches.

Detached storage unit

303. The maximum quantity of propellant powder that may be stored at any one time in a detached storage unit is 75 kg, less any quantity that is stored in a place referred to in section 301 and any quantity that is stored in a place referred to in section 302.

Storage requirements — dwelling

304. (1) When propellant powder, percussion caps, small arms cartridges that contain black powder or black power cartouches are stored in a dwelling, they must be stored away from flammable substances and sources of ignition, in a manner that protects them from theft and ensures that access to them is limited to people authorized by the user.


Storage requirements — storage unit

(2) When propellant powder, percussion caps, small arms cartridges that contain black powder or black powder cartouches are stored in a storage unit,

(a) the storage unit must be located in a dry place, away from flammable substances and sources of ignition;

(b) the storage unit must be constructed and maintained to prevent unauthorized access and to protect the contents from weather;

(c) if the storage unit is a container, it must not impede exit in case of fire;

(d) if the storage unit is not a container, all exits must be kept unobstructed;

(e) any shelving in the storage unit must be made from a non-sparking material (for example, wood or painted metal);

(f) only propellant powder, percussion caps, small arms cartridges and black powder cartouches may be stored in the storage unit;

(g) propellant powder, percussion caps, small arms cartridges and black powder cartouches must be stored separately from one another (for example, on different shelves or separated by a wooden barrier);

(h) the storage unit must be attended when it is unlocked;

(i) the storage unit must be kept clean, dry, organized and free of grit;

(j) any spill, leakage or other contamination in the storage unit must be cleaned up immediately;

(k) precautions that minimize the likelihood of fire in or near the storage unit must be taken; and

(l) a sign that displays the words “Danger — Fire Hazard/Risque d’incendie” in letters at least 10 cm high and that prohibits smoking using letters, or a symbol, at least 10 cm high must be posted on the storage unit in a clearly visible location.
 
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