can someone clarify some basic ballistics to me about cartridges

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I just have a question about cartridges

I hear alot about who like what and which is best. I dont want the mine is bigger argument here I just want facts.

.44 , .45 , 357 mag, .38 spc .
I'm pretty stuck on whether I'm getting a 357 or a 45acp . But I dont want to overlook something

tell me the pros and cons of these cartridges

.44
pro

con



.45 acp
pro


con




.357
pro



con




.38 spc
pro




con
 
Your post smells of laziness. Does your mother wipe your ass for you too?

Its not all that hard and wont take you much time to do a little research to get some basic info. Do that, come back and then ask some more specific questions. I and many others have no problems in answering, but when you are too lazy to even get some basic info, don't expect people to hand over the goods.:rolleyes:
 
We need more info because those two cartridges are not chambered in the same type of gun and that will likely have more bearing on your choice than anything.

Mark
 
Light Infantry said:
Your post smells of laziness. Does your mother wipe your ass for you too?

Its not all that hard and wont take you much time to do a little research to get some basic info. Do that, come back and then ask some more specific questions. I and many others have no problems in answering, but when you are too lazy to even get some basic info, don't expect people to hand over the goods.:rolleyes:
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then next time dont post in the thread and pass it by, I hate reading crap like this in forums where people are experts. Obviously your not the person I want an answer from in the first place. You think I havent looked this up???? I've done nothing but read but READING doesnt get it done. I dont have the resources to buy all 4 types of firearms. So I ask in a gun forum, the people who have ACTUALLY fired each of these. what they think.
 
I've been told that we have contests at my range and I need something that I can shoot bowling pins with. So I was thinking a 1911 in 45 acp but I dont wanna leave anything out. The Smith and wesson I was looking at is a 45 acp revolver too. THe 8 shot 357 also looks appealing but will I be able to drop the bowling pins with it
 
TheManInBlack said:
then next time dont post in the thread and pass it by, I hate reading crap like this in forums where people are experts. Obviously your not the person I want an answer from in the first place. You think I havent looked this up???? I've done nothing but read but READING doesnt get it done. I dont have the reaources to buy all 4 types of firearms so I ask in a gun forum what people who have ACTUALLY fired each of these what they think.
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BS, you are LAZY.
 
TheManInBlack said:
I've been told that we have contests at my range and I need something that I can shoot bowling pins with. So I was thinking a 1911 in 45 acp but I dont wanna leave anything out. The Smith and wesson I was looking at is a 45 acp revolver too. THe 8 shot 357 also looks appealing but will I be able to drop the bowling pins with it
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I don't think you should have any problems, our club used to have pin matches all the time with rimfire handguns....and they always fell over.

I wouldn't worry about the cartridge you need, figure out what gun you want first (ie, a 1911 is pretty different than a 357 revolver)
 
THe 8 shot 357 also looks appealing but will I be able to drop the bowling pins with it
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Good Lord! The 357 was developed for the FBI in the 1930's as a successor to the .38 Super to go through car doors, bulletproof vests and even engine blocks. I think it can handle bowling pins. A .22 could handle bowling pins. Come to think of it, some CO2 pistols can handle bowling pins.
 
Onagoth said:
I don't think you should have any problems, our club used to have pin matches all the time with rimfire handguns....and they always fell over.

I wouldn't worry about the cartridge you need, figure out what gun you want first (ie, a 1911 is pretty different than a 357 revolver)
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Really with a 22? The guys I talked too said the guys who try with 9mm have a hard time getting them down. Maybe they are just yanking my chain. When I was in the army I fired alot of firearms but not handguns. So I'm new to the whole handgun thing. I can see pictures and read but untill I shoot them or talk to someone who is experienced in all the cartridges you really can get a handle on it. Like on 40 year old virgin, " her boob felt like a sandbag" :eek:
 
TheManInBlack said:
Really with a 22? The guys I talked too said the guys who try with 9mm have a hard time getting them down. Maybe they are just yanking my chain. When I was in the army I fired alot of firearms but not handguns. So I'm new to the whole handgun thing. I can see pictures and read but untill I shoot them or talk to someone who is experienced in all the cartridges you really can get a handle on it. Like on 40 year old virgin, " her boob felt like a sandbag" :eek:
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No worries, I tried to find some pictures of our pin shoot, but they must of taken them off the website.

Not sure where your from, but I think here in Bantario our club caught some flak from the CFO for shooting pins (apparent ricochets). As such, we only shoot clays now.

I don't think a 9mm would have any trouble at all handling a pin. The challenge with shooting pins as I understand is that you have to shoot them off the table, so if the fall over a roll around you have to keep shooting....I think that's when shooters start thinking its a problem with the cartridge.
 
Well, as with most things, the sky's the limit. They're are a lot of ways to have fun with guns without getting too insane on $$$. However, IMO, the startup cost isn't usually the problem, its the ongoing costs associated with ammo and reloading components that kills ya, at least for the volume shooter.
 
TheManInBlack said:
that would sound like a good explanation. So much nice stuff out there too, this is gonna be more expensive than my tube amp addiction
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Well, tube amps are state of the art pieces of equipment of vintage design but then again so are pistols.
For some reason my GP100 357 revolver is more accurate than any of my 9mm yet on par with the 22 MkIII Ruger. Make you pick :)
 
thanks for the help guys, I just read some more added stuff to wiki which help too

"In terms of accuracy, the .357 Magnum has at least the same potential for precision shooting as the benchmark .38 Special wadcutter round—indeed, a good .357 Magnum revolver will happily shoot .38 Special wadcutter ammunition with good results. It is this accuracy and power, and the versatility of also being capable of using less-expensive, milder .38 Special ammunition, that makes a .357 Magnum revolver an excellent gun for many different disciplines, from 20 yard (18.28 m) precision shooting to long range falling-plate events. It is an excellent round for those considering handloading ammunition, as it is economical and consistently performs well."

that pretty much says it all to me I can use the 2 rounds and still have all the power I need
 
Typically, any gun that shoots 357 will shoot 38spl. That should solve half your dilemma.

The other choice may not be as simple. If you are just going to shoot bowling pins, a 45ACP would serve you well and you might also use it to play some of the other action games as well. If you think you may lean towards silhouette, the 44 would be a better option.
 
What do you want your handgun to do? If it is for shooting bowling pins then any calibre will do.
A handgun is a self-defence tool. And what counts is if you can stop a threat to your life. I would rather have a .22lr handgun than no handgun. I would rather have a 9mm handgun that I could shoot well under duress than a .44 magnum handgun that I was afraid of.
Light Infantry is right when he suggests you go out and learn these things by research and trial and error.
There is NO magic bullet!
 
Too many years ago I shot alot of pins, but in those days the pins had to clear the table, and small guns tended to not do that. If you like revolvers, get a .44, it can be loaded down to .44 Special easily, if you like semis go for the .45 Auto....You might as well buy what yer' gonna end up with!
 
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