Canadian Forces 870 info

The reason I was told was because since they now had the carbine, there was no need as before there was only the rifle. As a logistics based guy I suspect the decision had more to do with trying to simplify supply and training (only need 5.56 and a small quantity of 9mm vs before where you had 5.56, a decent quantity of 9mm, and 12 gauge).

Everyone I know loved the MP5, and I can't really think of a much better option for CQB simply because of the accurate high volume of fire you can put down with those small little things. In the end I think it has more to do with the desk sitters pushing worse options on people for simplicity.
 
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Spot the shotgun :p

There is 2 in the "room" but you only see one. The one with the folding stock is hanging under my green US liner and the rain jacket

 
I know 5th Divison (CF) put out a video last year that shows their folding stock models. Remington LEO top folders, with and without surefire weapon lights.

Something about '870 fun facts'
 
Pretty well all purpose above. I still believe it holds a strong place in LE despite the popularity of the carbine. We'll see things swing back around, as it is a fabulous force multiplier under pressure.
 
The MP5 was an excellent platform and great for CQB in a ship environment. I don't really know why they decided to give it the axe. They were getting pretty beat up, perhaps they didn't want to pay to replace them. I was told by an SO guy that they wanted to go with 5.56 instead of the 9mm because of its penetrating qualities. The 9mm caused to many ricochets in a steel hulled vessel. Whether that's true or not, I don't know. It seemed to make some sense at the time.

That's oversimplified, but basically, true.

-S.
 
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