Canadian IPSC Nationals
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Do you know the reason Peter or are you speculating there was a reason? I guess there is a reason for everything. Hehehe
red magnum
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A rumour is when you make something up. The price i put out there was from an individual who is well respected in IPSC My thoughts were it would be for profit match as help is scarce an ranges large enough want to be compensated.
I sincerely hope the price is more reasonable but i believe if you look at the price for our prov last year might give you some idea what it will cost to shoot.
I sincerely hope the price is more reasonable but i believe if you look at the price for our prov last year might give you some idea what it will cost to shoot.
Yes the ratio we have to work with is amazingly stupid, however, having shot matches that didn't follow the ratio you can easily see that they were built to allow the MD the best chance of winning (and no I'm not going to say what matches, but it's been more than once). And if not the MD, than the local "champ" the MD is supporting. Be it a match full of lots of running, or a match with nothing but long hard shots out to 50m on little tiny partials or plates, or a match that was just speed shoots and hosefests. A good match needs to be balanced across the boards, especially a Nationals, and the ratio is IPSC's attempt at doing that. If you want a match this only up to the MD to determine the ratio of stages, like all 32 round hosefests or something, there are lots of matches like that.
Our Nationals should be our premiere match, hard, well built and large. Shipping ammo inside of canada is cheap so people shouldn't be whining about shipping ammo.
Now, without having seen the match copy of the proposed match, if the match is just a small one, well, it's going to be hard for a lot of people who have any distance to travel to justify the expense of going to the match if it's not going to be bigger than a local level II or even a I. Sure there are team spots or slots for the Worlds to think about, but even still there is going to be some thinking being done.
As for their almost being no Nats because of no clubs being interested in running, well, sometimes #### happens. If that was the case then maybe we need to have better back up plans? But unless we see some sort of minutes of the meetings that shows exactly what went down, it's just rumors and hearsay.
I'm confident that Ontario will put on another great Nationals, in my opinion that best ones we've had in my history have been in Ontario.
Our Nationals should be our premiere match, hard, well built and large. Shipping ammo inside of canada is cheap so people shouldn't be whining about shipping ammo.
Now, without having seen the match copy of the proposed match, if the match is just a small one, well, it's going to be hard for a lot of people who have any distance to travel to justify the expense of going to the match if it's not going to be bigger than a local level II or even a I. Sure there are team spots or slots for the Worlds to think about, but even still there is going to be some thinking being done.
As for their almost being no Nats because of no clubs being interested in running, well, sometimes #### happens. If that was the case then maybe we need to have better back up plans? But unless we see some sort of minutes of the meetings that shows exactly what went down, it's just rumors and hearsay.
I'm confident that Ontario will put on another great Nationals, in my opinion that best ones we've had in my history have been in Ontario.
Can't we all just hug and... oh wait...
I suppose with all the time everyone here, who is from Ontario, has, we'll be getting a lot of hands on help for both the Nat's and the Prov's right? I've already reached out to people to volunteer my time and services for both matches, have you guys? If there is a low stage count it is simply for the lack of real estate at the ranges. Let's work together to design some awesome stages to make this match the best.
ps. There is always a backup plan, I know what it was. There always has to be as regional and sectional championships are a requirement for IPSC affiliation. Cancelling is not an option.
It would be nice if they could think of how to use their limited real estate to its max potential (eg putting 2 short COF on one bay etc) so instead of the originally proposed 12 stages they could have 14 and using the new 2014 "Course Ratio Chart" could have 6 short, 6 medium and 2 long ...maximum 280 rounds...and they would still be in compliance of the rules
The location of the Nationals was just recently decide/announced.
The Ontario provincials were at the same range last year, and it had 13 stages + chrono.
What the final round count/stage count will be for the Nationals is still not final.
This discussion brings up what I feel is a problem here in Ontario.
We don't have facilities to put on an exceptional match.
We can put on really good matches, but that's about it.
When we have to cram 2-3 stages into each bay, be it a pistol bay or a 100m rifle range, you can't put on a match that has good flow, and fully take advantage of stage designer's creativity.
I shoot in the US as often as I can, and best matches I've been to have been at ranges with as many shooting bays as stages.
Squeezing 2 courses onto one bay just for the sake of having more rounds/stages doesn't necessarily mean more quality stages.
True, but if you HAVE to have 6 short stages why not try to squeeze 2 into one bay (2 or 3 times) to leave more room for 2 extra medium COF, that way you could have even more quality stages......IF it happened there were only 12 stages you would have no option and 6 of them, or HALF the COF of the match would be 12 rounds or less and that (at least in my opinion) is not what most shooters would wish for at Nationals....as you say though, the number of stages and round count has not been decided yet
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Really? No body's thrown the typical why dont you hold a match BS reply yet
