Canadian Made Swiss Arms AR Lower

A domestic AR lower for a SA rifle would be great, if already I own a SA I would be all over it, however if I am going to to start from the beginning with $3300 rifle and than another $500, it will put it into the HK and KAC pricing range :(
 
How difficult would it be to modify the Swiss Arms lower to use AR mags?

Not saying it would be cheap or easy, but I think you could do a lot of machining etc to get the stock lower to accept AR mags before you would exceed the manufacturing cost of an entirely new lower.
 
scottm said:
How difficult would it be to modify the Swiss Arms lower to use AR mags?

Not saying it would be cheap or easy, but I think you could do a lot of machining etc to get the stock lower to accept AR mags before you would exceed the manufacturing cost of an entirely new lower.
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I think you will be surprised. Target sports and TSE will be carrying them.
 
scottm said:
How difficult would it be to modify the Swiss Arms lower to use AR mags?

Not saying it would be cheap or easy, but I think you could do a lot of machining etc to get the stock lower to accept AR mags before you would exceed the manufacturing cost of an entirely new lower.
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Apparently the Swiss magwell is too narrow for that to work.
 
scottm said:
How difficult would it be to modify the Swiss Arms lower to use AR mags?

Not saying it would be cheap or easy, but I think you could do a lot of machining etc to get the stock lower to accept AR mags before you would exceed the manufacturing cost of an entirely new lower.
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Impossible. And even if it was possible, there's no way that I'd ever toss a Swiss lower on a machine to get chopped.

Swiss use rock in mags with AK-style mag releases. AR mags are insert with lateral mag releases. The swiss rifles have no mag well, so no place for the mag to catch to. Among several other obvious conflicts, I think we'll go with a whole new lower.


related..

My 556 lower is stripped an in to the shop. It took me all of 15 mins to strip the lower completely. So a parts swap is no big deal. We'll offer a parts swap service for those that are all thumbs when the time comes.
 
Thsi is very interesting.

I too am curious to know if your conversion will be a drop in fit or if it will require modification to the upper to get it to work. I love the idea of 10 rd mags for teh SAN but I am not keen on modifying the upper on a $3000 rifle. Call me kooky.
 
BigUglyMan said:
Thsi is very interesting.

I too am curious to know if your conversion will be a drop in fit or if it will require modification to the upper to get it to work. I love the idea of 10 rd mags for teh SAN but I am not keen on modifying the upper on a $3000 rifle. Call me kooky.
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Yeah I would want to be able to be regular Swiss or drop in conversion myself. Should be a way of doing it.
 
Bottom line will be, as long as an AR, or other upper, will NOT fit on this lower, shouldn't be a problem legally.

Sounds like an excellent project, I'll be getting one should they come available.
 
koldt said:
Bottom line will be, as long as an AR, or other upper, will NOT fit on this lower, shouldn't be a problem legally.

Sounds like an excellent project, I'll be getting one should they come available.
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Honestly it shouldn't matter at all what fits or dosen't fit. This is a non-serialized accessory to augment a serialized upper. No different than a BUIS or rail protector.

I don't have a lot of knowledge about the two systems side by side, but I doubt that an AR upper and a SAN lower could come together except with some sort of bastard adapter... And the adapter would have to be serialized as the "Firearm" as the SAN lower and AR upper are both non-serialized items.
 
I'd be down for a complete lower, just for the novelty factor, if nothing more. However, I would have zero interest in having to strip my factory SAN rifle lower in order to complete the 556 clone lower. I would guess that many other SAN fans would feel the same. Perhaps look into getting a volume discount on OEM factory internal kits so that you can offer drop in upper switches?
 
KyleM said:
Honestly it shouldn't matter at all what fits or dosen't fit. This is a non-serialized accessory to augment a serialized upper. No different than a BUIS or rail protector.

I don't have a lot of knowledge about the two systems side by side, but I doubt that an AR upper and a SAN lower could come together except with some sort of bastard adapter... And the adapter would have to be serialized as the "Firearm" as the SAN lower and AR upper are both non-serialized items.
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You're kidding right?

Having a non serial numbered/unrestricted lower, together with a non serialed/unrestricted upper and you don't think that would be a legal problem in this country????
 
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