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ok i guys i know i know, dont need another 308 vs ought six thread but i cant decide. i was originaly planning on going 308 for deer next year as i sold my 243. then for elk and moose i was thinking 300 win mag.......... but i just came across a good deal on an 30-06. plan being buy the 30-06 and it being my do all hunting rifle. thoughts on this? whats a decent range for moose and elk for the old ought six? i dont want to have to aim at the sun so 180s would probably be my choice bullet weight.
 
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I used the 06 for years with Barnes 165 gr.worked great on Moose,Elk and everything else.
Reb
 
I've used .243 on moose with success... It all comes down to how accurate the gun & hunter is. Shoot as much as you can to get as accurate as possible.
But who am I kidding...if your like most of us, one "do-it-all gun" is never enough.
Cheers,

Moosifer
 
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ok i guys i know i know, dont need another 308 vs ought six thread but i cant decide. i was originaly planning on going 308 for deer next year as i sold my 243. then for elk and moose i was thinking 300 win mag.......... but i just came across a good deal on an 30-06. plan being buy the 30-06 and it being my do all hunting rifle. thoughts on this? whats a decent range for moose and elk for the old ought six? i dont want to have to aim at the sun so 180s would probably be my choice bullet weight.
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>Nope, absolutely not on the one gun thing! A one gun man is not a good thing! there are all kinds of "beware of the man with one gun" threads here on this topic. check it out! :eek:
>Your neighbor Kelly out there in PA will bring on one more cal for you to choose from, the 7mm-08! I suggest you buy him a coffee at Tim's and a donut and he'll steer ya straight! Trust me, he's a good guy! I've seen his groups, he does shoot straight! ;)
>Nothing at all wrong with the aught-six, grab it now while it's available for a good price. You can use it for both Deer & Moose while you shop around for more guns in other cals. ;)
 
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I've got a 300wsm for moose and deer (northern Ontario) and just ordered a compct .308 because my 300wsm is a tad heavy to lug around. The 30-06 is great. A tad bit more hitting power than the .308 and tad less than the 300 win mag. No big deal. Most people really over think this. It's shot placement that counts. If you're worried if you will have to "aim at the sun" check the ballistics program on the Winchester site:

http://www.winchester.com/learning-center/ballistics-calculator/Pages/ballistics-calculator.aspx
 
lol my gun count is just under 25 at the moment... so no, what i should have said was i want a good hunting rifle i can get familiar with for the open field days. find ammo at any gas station in the middle of NO WHERE, and not worry if it gets a little rough around the edges.
 
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lol my gun count is just under 25 at the moment... so no, what i should have said was i want a good hunting rifle i can get familiar with for the open field days. find ammo at any gas station in the middle of NO WHERE, and not worry if it gets a little rough around the edges.
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well then, I'll save ya the cost of the coffee & donut, Kelly will say 308, I think! :p
 
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lol my gun count is just under 25 at the moment... so no, what i should have said was i want a good hunting rifle i can get familiar with for the open field days. find ammo at any gas station in the middle of NO WHERE, and not worry if it gets a little rough around the edges.
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They sell ammo at gas stations? ;)
 
Seriously? Sweet!

If you can get a good deal on the 06, buy it! It will kill them all, just like the .308 and the 300 win mag.

I heard that Tim Horton was going to start selling ammo...
 
Though not my kind of gun for big game, if you like the gun, get it, it's very easy to get an '06 shootin' good. My most accurate load is the 165 gr Nozzzler BT with IMR 4007 SSC.
 
7mm Rem Mag.

120 nozzlers for little things
120 TTSX for medium things
150/160 TTSX/TSX for the biggest things
162 match bullets for the paper and steel things

It simply doesn't get any easier than that!
 
Guess I better get in on this since I am already involved.;)

Sure, the 30-06 will work just fine, with today's bullet technology you can get amazing penetration from some co called "light for caliber" bullets.Bonded or monolithic bullets can do some great things.150 or 165 grain would be plenty and shoot damn flat.

You could go the 7mm route as two-dogs suggests and have some bullets that are a bit more slippery if you want to flatten your bullet trajectory and have excellent penetration to boot.If you are shooting at distance you are going to have drop either way and knowing your distance as well as your bullet path will be your key to success for longer range applications.

A great deal is a great deal though and chambering isn't a huge issue these days(within reason of course).

Is the rifle comfortable for you? To me that is most important , if you have to struggle to get a comfortable grip/weld on the rifle then move on to the next one, keep trying till you find the sweet one.

As for range, that is shooter dependent, the chambering we are discussing will down large animals at long distances(400 yards and then some) IF the shooter can confidently hit his intended target the projectile will do it's job.

Anything .260 and up is suitable for an all purpose hunting rifle with today's bullets.Personally I'd go .308 over 30-06 , they are so close ballistically the animals will never know, but I prefer the SA rifles.

Yes, you can do plenty with the 7 oh 8 if you know how to use it.;)

As for ammo, just buy/load lots when it is time, nobody forgets ammo, and if you are 3 hours away from any shop with common ammo, you are still 3 hours away.Put a box in the truck and box in the rifle case, a box in the gym bag a box in your shaving kit, problem solved.:D
 
I've spent the last 30 years buying and debating which is the better calibre, .270, .308 or 30-06. I've owned many examples of each but in my humble opinion they all shoot great -- depending on your bullet choice. Spending a few dollars more for a box of really good ammo is worth it.
My youngest son (16) took down his first buck (8 points) this year with Remington Premier Ballistic Tips in .308. Can't find them anymore but at the time they were expensive but other than 4 rounds to adjust the scope they took down 16 deer.
Alright, so what if my oldest shot most of them, I paid for the bloody things! LOL
 
all of my white tails have been taken within 50 yards (6) so im not a long distance hunter. i think my absolute max would be 300. i have taken coyotes as far as 500. but for big game i like knowing, for certain my shot placement and putting game down quick and clean with one shot. and i am more then comfortable at 300. helps that i handload also. i think i might give the ought six a whirl.
 
If it is a good deal on a rifle that fits you, get the .30-06. The cartridge can do everything a .308 can do except take up slightly less space and weigh slightly less. This hypothetical disadvantage is offset by the hypothetical advantage of the longer case allowing you to fit enough powder in to get the better performance with the larger weight .30 calibre bullets, i.e >180gr. In real life application, the vast majority of users of both these calibres never really suffer from the supposed deficiencies of either of them.
 
I hunt with a Ruger 77mkII stainless rifle in 30-06. My own loads with Nosler 180gr Accubonds. Accurate and deadly for a long way out. Mine is zeroed to 200m currently. I carry a 308 as well for my backup rifle. Its loaded with 150gr Accubonds and is also zeroed to 200m. First moose I saw this year was 50ft away.
 
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