Can't get bore clean

[OldSavage]

A buddy was cleaning his 257 and 243 today and has spent endless hours and still producing dirty patches. After running a wet patch (hoppes no. 9) he is getting nothing at all as well as the dry patch but after running the bore brush through the patches look disgusting and yet it doesn't seem to be improving.

Any ideas on what this could be, or how to remedy this situation as endless hours have gone into this and yet the results are still the same. He's used a copper solvent and there doesn't seem to be any evidence of remaining copper fouiling.

We are at a loss.

 

[stubblejumper]

Does he clean his brush?The brush is probably putting more contaminants into the bore.If the patches are clean,there is no need to use a brush.

 

[Publican]

Corroded or dirty bore brush. Try a new one. Or better yet, throw it away and buy a bore snake in the proper caliber. Put Hoppes solvent ahead of the brush area on the snake, some gun oil below the brush, pull through twice and should be good to go. Bore brushes, patches and rods are obsolete.

 

[stubblejumper]

Or better yet, throw it away and buy a bore snake in the proper caliber. Put Hoppes solvent ahead of the brush area on the snake, some gun oil below the brush, pull through twice and should be good to go. Bore brushes, patches and rods are obsolete.

Of course that is only your opinion.Many of use will never put a boresnake through the barrels on our own rifles.How many successful target shooters do you know that have replaced their Patches and rods with bore brushes?How many barrel makers recommend bore snakes over a proper rod and patches?

 

[OldSavage]

He has cleaned the brush countless times.

As for a borebrush, we both like them for use of shotguns at the range but not for cleaning a rifle. Just opinion I guess.

 

[stubblejumper]

If wet patches are coming out clean,why put a brush back into the barrel?

 

[Jess]

Order some Carbon Killer "Slip 2000" (http://www.slip2000.com/carbonkiller.html). Use nylon brushes which last longer and can be cleaned. The best copper cleaner I have come across is Boretech Eliminator (http://www.boretech.com/products/eliminator.shtml).

 

[Gatehouse]

Quit using Hoppes #9 and switch to Wipeout or CR-10...Just follow the directions.

 

[corney]

Stubblejumper

Many of use will never put a boresnake through the barrels on our own rifles.

Is this a personal thing or is there a reason you don't like boresnakes? I have both and I kinda like the snakes.

 

[bjjzak]

Quit using Hoppes #9 and switch to Wipeout or CR-10...Just follow the directions.

Ditto! 9 is a rather mild cleaner, especially on copper fouling. Modern chemistry has done wonders for bore cleaners, let the chemical do the work for you. PS, what kind of brushes are you using?

 

[stubblejumper]

Stubblejumper

Many of use will never put a boresnake through the barrels on our own rifles.

Is this a personal thing or is there a reason you don't like boresnakes? I have both and I kinda like the snakes.

I won't use a boresnake,because I can't get it perfectly clean after using it.As such,you keep running the same barrel residues through the barrel over and over again.That is why I use patches and never reuse them.Many people that I shoot with feel the same way.We pay good money for high quality aftermarket barrels,and we do whatever is possible to prevent damaging these barrels.In fact ,some people rarely even use barrel brushes,and only when absolutely necessary.

 

[Camk]

I use carb cleaner in the spray bottle to clean my bore snakes comes out like brand new

 

[joe-nwt]

Any chance he's stripping Moly out of the barrel? Sometimes that can be a ##### to get out.

 

[Randy B]

make sure he wipes the rod clean!! that will deposit some dirt back on the bore.

 

[hermie]

bore cleaner

Get some Wipe-Out, you won't look back.

 

[corney]

I won't use a boresnake,because I can't get it perfectly clean after using it.As such,you keep running the same barrel residues through the barrel over and over again.That is why I use patches and never reuse them.Many people that I shoot with feel the same way.We pay good money for high quality aftermarket barrels,and we do whatever is possible to prevent damaging these barrels.In fact ,some people rarely even use barrel brushes,and only when absolutely necessary.

Thanks that sounds reasonable to me. I don't shoot guns like you have and I would be concerned if I invested hard earned cash on barrels like that too.

 

[Jess]

Any chance he's stripping Moly out of the barrel? Sometimes that can be a ##### to get out.

Good point - and you'll never get moly out of a barrel once you've shot moly. Also most experts recommend you stick with Moly once you've started using it.

 

[Rutger]

100% Handsdown THE BEST solution to this problem: "Wipe-Out"

w ww.sharpshootr.com/wipeout.htm

I would take the pepsi challenge with this stuff against your standard borecleaner method any day of the week.

 

[stubblejumper]

Good point - and you'll never get moly out of a barrel once you've shot moly.

I tried moly in two rifles,and it wasn't that difficult to remove with Sweets 7.62.

 

[Jess]

I tried moly in two rifles,and it wasn't that difficult to remove with Sweets 7.62.

Sweets is very good at removing copper.