Can't understand 1911

Cant understand why anyone would want a 1911 in any caliber than 45 ACP... Just saying. JP.

The only 1911 other than 45 ACP i would like is a 1911 Coonan in 357 Mag, that would be my 1911 on steroids... JP.

10mm

Your argument is invalid

... Or 357 mag, which one is more powerfull... JP.

They even make them in .22 LR (GSG 1911)

.38 Super (or .38 Supercomp) and 9mm major are the calibers of choice for the Open Division guys (compensators and optical sights).


I currently have seventeen 1911's
most in 45
one in 38 super
two in .22
one in 10mm
and one in .90acp.....

;)


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Nor did I reference any of the 1911's upsides, such as a trigger the P30 can only dream of, or a platform so tolerant of alterations to its performance constraints that it can run on anything from 9mm to 460 Rowland with little more than a different top end and magazines that will hold the round.

Every platform has advantages and disadvantages. The 1911 is one of the great designs of firearms history; it also comes with some drawbacks. It's up to the individual user to choose which set of benefits they would like to choose, and whether the costs are worth it.


If you want to try seriously demanding courses, Craig Douglas is the go to guy. It's not risk-free.
 
I have had a 1911 thing since I was kid and watched Steve McQueen in "The Getaway" I also got a crush on Pumps shotguns and Ali McGraw. I have a straightforward R1 and just got a Commander from our Chinese friends Norinco. I have thick hands and small fingers and the 1911 fits the mitt so nice. I shoot Glocks and a CZ85 but I always make my way back the 1911. I did cave and bought a GSG but its not near as fun. I guess the 1911 imprinted on me 40 years ago and won't let go.

I like that 90 acp!!!!
 
Nor did I reference any of the 1911's upsides, such as a trigger the P30 can only dream of, or a platform so tolerant of alterations to its performance constraints that it can run on anything from 9mm to 460 Rowland with little more than a different top end and magazines that will hold the round.

Every platform has advantages and disadvantages. The 1911 is one of the great designs of firearms history; it also comes with some drawbacks. It's up to the individual user to choose which set of benefits they would like to choose, and whether the costs are worth it.


If you want to try seriously demanding courses, Craig Douglas is the go to guy. It's not risk-free.

Are you refering to the sivworks courses?
 
Still waiting for her to come in, but this is what she looks like...

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Well, that didn't take long for the thread to go south (not a CGN record though:)) ^ Nice gun!

@ the OP and IBTL...for me the reason I've always gravitated to the 1911 is probably based in the comic books I read as a kid...
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. Tommy guns, hand grenades and the venerable 1911 abounds (and always won the day!:))

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I wish that more people didn't understand the 1911. Less demand, prices would drop and I'd own more. It is a great format for 9mm as well as any other calibre outside of the beloved 45 ACP that is. If you don't get the 1911, you just don't get it. That's cool, your loss though. And yes I own a Glock.

And Mister D you have the machoist tag line of all times. I did a push up and thought of Genghis Khan. Bad ass. Need to reference virgins though...
 
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Lol splits, what about a moz drill when filled with mud? I buy go to war guns, not playtoys.

On a sidenote P30L came out before the glock wannabe walther. Try again.

And looks? Who gives a #### how it looks, how does it function under the most adverse conditions, that's what is critical.

This is easily the toughest post I've ever seen on CGN.

I also got a crush on Pumps shotguns and Ali McGraw.

This is something we can all agree on and understand I'm sure.
 
I have taken most of their courses. Start with ECQC...it is the most fundamental and the least likely to result in serious injury. Attrition rates seem to run around 10-15% every time I've done it and I've seen people reduced to tears in it. You don't want to start with one of the brutal ones. ECQC is still a real ego-crusher. You will get ####ed up.

I think the 1911s I've taken have been a Baer UTC I tuned a bit, an old Colt that I tuned, and a Norinco that I built which had extensive alterations to the frame and slide. Mostly grinding...I didn't have to weld the rails on that one.

Never had an issue with any 1911 I've checked over. But I do build 1911s.


What is probably more worth asking is "why should users be fixated on guns that shoot when muddy?" Mud is not really a big problem for many handguns. They're pretty much closed systems other than the barrel, and any handgun that gets its barrel clogged with mud will get wrecked if shot in that condition.

If you take a well-built gun and shoot it, about the only thing that will shut it down is lack of maintenance, or enough dust to cake in the action.

So if you really want to hunt down guns that allow you to get them really dusty while you don't bother to lube them, that's up to you...but that strikes me as a real waste of time. If you can't lube a handgun once every thousand rounds or two...I don't think handguns are the tools you need to solve your problem.
 
I have taken most of their courses. Start with ECQC...it is the most fundamental and the least likely to result in serious injury. Attrition rates seem to run around 10-15% every time I've done it and I've seen people reduced to tears in it. You don't want to start with one of the brutal ones. ECQC is still a real ego-crusher. You will get ####ed up.

I think the 1911s I've taken have been a Baer UTC I tuned a bit, an old Colt that I tuned, and a Norinco that I built which had extensive alterations to the frame and slide. Mostly grinding...I didn't have to weld the rails on that one.

Never had an issue with any 1911 I've checked over. But I do build 1911s.


What is probably more worth asking is "why should users be fixated on guns that shoot when muddy?" Mud is not really a big problem for many handguns. They're pretty much closed systems other than the barrel, and any handgun that gets its barrel clogged with mud will get wrecked if shot in that condition.

If you take a well-built gun and shoot it, about the only thing that will shut it down is lack of maintenance, or enough dust to cake in the action.

So if you really want to hunt down guns that allow you to get them really dusty while you don't bother to lube them, that's up to you...but that strikes me as a real waste of time. If you can't lube a handgun once every thousand rounds or two...I don't think handguns are the tools you need to solve your problem.

Appreciate the advice on the training.

I picked the p30l for its durability, reliability, not being picky on ammo, and because from what I recall I don't need to change any springs or any other parts within 25,000rounds by standard maintenence practice, the trigger return springs in a couple examples went before that, some after. I have a couple spare in case it goes, but i will take it to breaking point.

Like you said you did considerable work on your stuff, which at least in your case I have to give props to for some good work, i wanted an out of the box gun that functions flawlessly hence my love for hk and glocks.
 
I wish that more people didn't understand the 1911. Less demand, prices would drop and I'd own more. It is a great format for 9mm as well as any other calibre outside of the beloved 45 ACP that is. If you don't get the 1911, you just don't get it. That's cool, your loss though. And yes I own a Glock.

And Mister D you have the machoist tag line of all times. I did a push up and thought of Genghis Khan. Bad ass. Need to reference virgins though...

Arnie's version in Conan wasn't too bad either :)
 
The Coonan has caught my eye but the idea of my precious 357 Mag brass getting sprayed all over the place makes me sweat. I'd like to hold one to see if the grip is too long to get comfortable. I was given a 9mm load by a friend, 147 grain projectile and it made the 9mm feel alot more like the 45, I'm going to play with the load for a bit.
 
What? No love for JMB's other achievement, the Browning Hi Power? Fewer moving parts, more armies equipped and also cloned by just about every Eastern nation.:d

Yes but... The Hi Power may be technically better than the 1911 but the 1911 just looks right, feels right, shoots right. The Hi Power just does not look as good, personal preference, I know. Shot the Hi Power in the military but I own a 1911. Enough said.
 
@Mark II; I have a GP100 for that. A .357 in a 1911 spells troubles (me thinks:))

I know. I'm not really into boutique guns myself. It was just a daydream. I've a GP100 myself and it's a nice gun. I'm mostly shooting 38 in it though.

Besides aren't we told that .357 sig is the solution for 357 magnum in a pistol?
 
I know. I'm not really into boutique guns myself. It was just a daydream. I've a GP100 myself and it's a nice gun. I'm mostly shooting 38 in it though.

Besides aren't we told that .357 sig is the solution for 357 magnum in a pistol?
I love 1911, i dont even shoot my S&W PC 627-5 in 357 mag... JP.
 
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