Canuck Hi Power vs CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow vs CZ Shadow 2

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I want a 9mm all metal handgun. I was disappointed with the polymers and need the weight to get on target. The problem is price.

I remember from the army that the browning hi power kept bitting me in the web of the hand. I assume the Canuck hi power would do the same. I could change out the hammer but ...... I don't want to. It is the budget option.

I have handled the CZ Shadow 2 and it felt like it was part of me. I wanted it until I saw the price. Oh my. But if it is far superior then I may bite the bullet.

I started to look at the CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow. It seems to be a compromise in price but will it meet my needs?

I am not in competition. I just like to go to the range and plink. But I want to plink with finesse in that I actually get consistent good groups.

FYI I already have a classic polymer 9mm and I love my Ruger 22lr. But I want a 9mm that i will love. Not sure which one I should go for.
Any advice would be appreciated.
 
IMHO, it sounds like you have a weak hold on the pistol. The P35 will still bite the web of your hand, nothing has changed to make that stop. Depending on condition of the P35 and its history, you could be looking at a much higher price than the Shadow 01.

I have a Shadow 01 and I like it a lot. It's front heavy, in comparison to the P35, has a much better trigger and lots of accessories are available if you are looking for them.

Another pistol you may want to look at, is the Beretta 92S. Lever Arms has several Italian Police surplus pistols priced very well. The only drawback is that the mag release is at the bottom of the grip. That wouldn't bother me a bit and it won't make a pinch of difference for your needs either. It accepts new manufacture magazines as they all seem to have the cut out for the bottom mag lock/release.

Very well made pistols, with more forward weight than the P35, as well as being as ergonomically comfortable as the Shadow models.

Have you considered a good quality S&W, Colt, Ruger, Taurus revolver???

Taurus makes clones of just about every popular model pistol on the market. They are mid range quality and priced accordingly.
 
I own a shadow 1 and 2
I can shoot better groups with the Shadow 2 But

If i were to shoot recreationally and non-competitive then i would just use the Shadow 1. I find it personally more comfortable for an all day shooting pistol.

The Canuck high power is not really in the same class.
 
bearhunter said:
IMHO, it sounds like you have a weak hold on the pistol. The P35 will still bite the web of your hand, nothing has changed to make that stop. Depending on condition of the P35 and its history, you could be looking at a much higher price than the Shadow 01.

I have a Shadow 01 and I like it a lot. It's front heavy, in comparison to the P35, has a much better trigger and lots of accessories are available if you are looking for them.

Another pistol you may want to look at, is the Beretta 92S. Lever Arms has several Italian Police surplus pistols priced very well. The only drawback is that the mag release is at the bottom of the grip. That wouldn't bother me a bit and it won't make a pinch of difference for your needs either. It accepts new manufacture magazines as they all seem to have the cut out for the bottom mag lock/release.

Very well made pistols, with more forward weight than the P35, as well as being as ergonomically comfortable as the Shadow models.

Have you considered a good quality S&W, Colt, Ruger, Taurus revolver???

Taurus makes clones of just about every popular model pistol on the market. They are mid range quality and priced accordingly.
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I never think about revolvers. --- I will take a look and see if I want to rethink. Maybe try one out - one of the ones you recommended

Most people have referenced as well as you that the shadow 1 is a good choice. I did try the Beretta 92FS. It felt wrong but I think it was when I was focused on Polymers. I will take another looks

Thanks for all your advice.
 
It would appear most think the Shadow 1 would be a good fit. It was my personal choice as well. But now I see there are options that I have not considered. I may have to go back to the beginning and go through the process again but I do appreciate all the input. After-all firearms are not cheap. I like to make an informed decision before using my hard earned dollars. Thanks
 
yup, how many times you need to hear "Shadow 1?" a tad smaller than the Shadow 2. You can pick up a 1 for about $700 used, less if you are patient...more if there are extras.
 
Shadow 1 is a great gun. Shadow 2 is better, but for most, that extra bit is wasted. It can work great in IPSC, but the original Shadow can work just fine there. I still use my original Shadow in IPSC and have no plans to move to the S2 anytime soon.

Going from what you wrote: "I was disappointed with the polymers and need the weight to get on target", and the fact you already own a polymer 9mm, here's another thought:

Go get some proper coaching.

The skills you learn there will make EVERY gun you own, group better.

You seem to be looking for a $700-$1200 solution to better groups. Pay far less for quality coaching. Just my $0.02 :cheers:
 
jimbo14 said:
Shadow 1 is a great gun. Shadow 2 is better, but for most, that extra bit is wasted. It can work great in IPSC, but the original Shadow can work just fine there. I still use my original Shadow in IPSC and have no plans to move to the S2 anytime soon.

Going from what you wrote: "I was disappointed with the polymers and need the weight to get on target", and the fact you already own a polymer 9mm, here's another thought:

Go get some proper coaching.

The skills you learn there will make EVERY gun you own, group better.

You seem to be looking for a $700-$1200 solution to better groups. Pay far less for quality coaching. Just my $0.02 :cheers:
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Hmmm .... You may be right. It might be me. I don't have issues shooting my Ruger 22 and I assumed it was the heaviness that kept me on target. Perhaps it is not me mastering the recoil of a 9MM polymer pistol.... More to think about.
Thanks
 
Livingston5 said:
I never think about revolvers. --- I will take a look and see if I want to rethink. Maybe try one out - one of the ones you recommended

Most people have referenced as well as you that the shadow 1 is a good choice. I did try the Beretta 92FS. It felt wrong but I think it was when I was focused on Polymers. I will take another looks

Thanks for all your advice.
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I got a Ruger GP100 4.2" /357 a couple months ago, and I love it. Revolvers are not all that cheap, but they are nice to shoot; I shoot it as well in double action as I do most days with my Semis. It's sight radius is not far off that of a full sized semi auto, but he has less felt recoil likely due to no slide actuation, even though it weighs less than my Jericho, and I think almost exactly the same as my 1911.
 
Its 90% in your grip and your mind... I have a pair of shadow 1's(my only handguns atm). one has the tactical sport sao trigger in it other is stock other than grips. But anyway I lend mine to people all the time at the range. most still struggle to control the recoil and have to adjust there grip every shot despite the extra weight 'advantage' of my so called shadow's. I can pick up a glock and run It almost as fast, and shoot it almost as well.... and would own one if it didnt feel so wrong. I traded a guy on the firing line a couple my shadow for a Russian refurb tokerev that he was struggling to keep rds on an 8x11 paper. I proceeded to empty it into a 3" group handily centered on the bull(10yards) while he struggled to keep the shadow on paper.
 
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For plinking and shear enjoyment get yourself a Ruger GP-100 with a 4.2" barrel. Balances really nice, has a better trigger out of the box than the 686 out of the box With a few dollars spent on hammer and trigger return springs you can find yourself holding a really nice firearm. Revolvers generally are more accurate than semis unaltered semis due to the fixed barrel. 38spl ammo is easy to reload and the cases last a very long time.

They just are a lot of fun.

Take Care

Bob
ps A bit of tie spent with a decent teacher will tighten up your groups with your existing blasters and may just satisfy your itch.
 
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