Carrying a Mosin Nagant decocked?

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I've never considered this before as my other firearms have convenient/operable safeties.
My latest acuisition is an East German M38 with a worn out safety. The edge of the reciever where the cocking piece usually catches is worn away and there is a corresponding groove in the back of the cocking piece. The safety will not engage.
On the range the rifle is either loaded and shooting or open/unloaded and flagged so no confusion there...
However I've taken to carring it on gopher shoots and have plans to cart it along when I take my Whitetail this fall so I'm wondering if it's safe to chamber a round and then carry decocked. I don't mind so much missing out on the odd gopher while I work the bolt but I'm gonna be some POed is I miss my buck while I'm fighting with the bolt.
I'm either shooting Hungarian 21/52 (Etalon) or boxer primed hand loads.
Any input appreciated :)
 
Deltasilver said:
I've never considered this before as my other firearms have convenient/operable safeties.
My latest acuisition is an East German M38 with a worn out safety. The edge of the reciever where the cocking piece usually catches is worn away and there is a corresponding groove in the back of the cocking piece. The safety will not engage.)
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Eh? That's bizarre. That must be the most worn out gun in the history of the MN.

Don't carry with a chambered round. The mosin's pin protrudes through the face of the bolt when the bolt is decocked. It's how you check the firing pin protrusion with the gauge that comes in the kit. I'll post a short video on youtube presently.
 
She's a tad sticky. The gun's a total mix-master, came from P&S Militaria. Otherwise a fairly nice arsenal with good rifling. I did find it interesting that the reciever/bolt are forced matched but still worn on the safty catch. A quick tug on the cocking piece and I'm ready to go, otherwise it's "rattle-rattle-jiggle...crap"
 
Deltasilver said:
I've never considered this before as my other firearms have convenient/operable safeties.
My latest acuisition is an East German M38 with a worn out safety. The edge of the reciever where the cocking piece usually catches is worn away and there is a corresponding groove in the back of the cocking piece. The safety will not engage.
On the range the rifle is either loaded and shooting or open/unloaded and flagged so no confusion there...
However I've taken to carring it on gopher shoots and have plans to cart it along when I take my Whitetail this fall so I'm wondering if it's safe to chamber a round and then carry decocked. I don't mind so much missing out on the odd gopher while I work the bolt but I'm gonna be some POed is I miss my buck while I'm fighting with the bolt.
I'm either shooting Hungarian 21/52 (Etalon) or boxer primed hand loads.
Any input appreciated :)
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DON'T! :eek:
There's no inertial firing pin on the Mosin: when decocked, the firing pin comes to rest against the primer under very strong spring tension!
This is an A.D. just waiting to happen. The slightest vibration or shock onto the cocking knob can ignite the primer.
The same can happen on the Enfields if the shooter doesn't decock correctly and misses the half-#### notch. I've seen it happen just in front of me; believe me, the guy was kinda red in the face...
Better, if you have strong fingers, use the safety. Pull the cocking knob and turn it to the left.
PP.
 
Do not decock any bolt action rifle with a round chambered. The firing pin will rest against the primer and the rifle can be fired by the slightest blow.

Lee Enfields have a half-#### notch, which can be used as a safety, but if you do this, you absolutely must make sure the firing pin is sitting at half ####, rather than fully forward.
 
Delta- I think it's prudent to consider your Mosin to not be a safe hunting rifle. Range rifle yes, hunting no.
As others have mentioned, that idea of decocking the bolt on to the primer is extremely dangerous and should never be done...:eek:

BTW, can you post some pics of your rifle, showing the worn area where the safety should lock? It seems nobody has seen that area worn out before?


Deltasilver said:
I've never considered this before as my other firearms have convenient/operable safeties.
My latest acuisition is an East German M38 with a worn out safety. The edge of the reciever where the cocking piece usually catches is worn away and there is a corresponding groove in the back of the cocking piece. The safety will not engage.
On the range the rifle is either loaded and shooting or open/unloaded and flagged so no confusion there...
However I've taken to carring it on gopher shoots and have plans to cart it along when I take my Whitetail this fall so I'm wondering if it's safe to chamber a round and then carry decocked. I don't mind so much missing out on the odd gopher while I work the bolt but I'm gonna be some POed is I miss my buck while I'm fighting with the bolt.
I'm either shooting Hungarian 21/52 (Etalon) or boxer primed hand loads.
Any input appreciated :)
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Everybody else, thanks, that's pretty much what I figgured.

Cantom, I'll do what I can for pics. I don't keep the rifle @ home as I have kids and no gun safe. Most likely after the weekend.

Cheers.
 
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