Catastrophic Sig Sauer slide fail - what do I do? FINAL UPDATE in post 48

BAAC said:
Ha! I just bought a P22 so that I would put less wear on the Mosquito.

I suddenly feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick a football...

I knew the Mosquito had some slide issues, but I figured it would just mean excess wear on the rails or something. Not the bloody nose falling off.

Just talked to Sig and they basically told me I was screwed. They won't touch Canadian guns unless they are imported into the US by a licensed importer, and then they have to be exported back. (Worth it for my Sig 1911, maybe, but not a $300 22LR.) MD Charlton is their only Canadian supplier, so off to talk to them...

BTW, the guy from Sig said they recommend the recoil spring be changed every 1,500 rounds to prevent excess recoil affecting the slide. Er... I put a brick of 22LR through this almost every time I go to the range. It's my warm-up gun. So, that's a new spring every 3 or so trips to the range...
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I had exactly the same thing happen 6 months ago and was left in the cold.
I bought a replacement slide from Nichols FN in Montreal for around $115.00 fixed it up and sold it shortly there after.
I kept the old slide as a reminder to never buy a SIG again.
The same goes for GSG as they made the slide for SIG.
 
Messy Pants said:
It would be nice to have a well known defects forum. People could post their well known issues that come up all the time. I would totally read that forum. Like the end falls of the gun sometimes, would be a good thing to list in that forum. :D
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There is.

Its called google :p

Shawn
 
hms11 said:
I was under the impression most of the Norc's (at least the 1911's) were made out of a forged tool steel.
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That could very well be the case and it should be when making something like the slide. I only said Norc cause ..... well .... they are cheap :)

J
 
Do the slides on the GSG 1911 style .22's fail like this? I haven't heard of any yet, but that's what would keep me from buying one.
 
Skinny 1950 said:
Looks like the slide is die cast from "Pot Metal" which is notorious for cracking, manufacturers sometimes make mistakes when choosing how to manufacture things and I think this is a case in point. I only say these things because I have seen numerous failures of a similar nature involving this particular gun. Stronger alloys are more difficult to cast and also cost more, I would be really surprised if Sig Sauer actually made that slide but their name is on it so they should stand behind it.
I wouldn't want to stand behind that slide when it cuts loose
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My employer derisively refers to it as "that Hitler metal", and refuses to consider using it.
 
Juan For All said:
That could very well be the case and it should be when making something like the slide. I only said Norc cause ..... well .... they are cheap :)

J
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Apparently they are not the only ones, They however make no bones about it and charge accordingly, unlike some manufactures who like to claim the high moral (and price) ground.
I recently acquired a .45 norc from one of our friends here at an amazing price. The thing is a bit rough around the edges, but it runs flawlessly and gets smoother every time I take it out. I don't know what to expect going forward from it but I like it more every day.
What I have noticed, going out amongst my fellow shooters is a type of gun snobbery lol, where any short comings of a norc no matter how small is met with sneers of disdain and comments concerning her lineage. On the other hand any shortcomings of an expensive popular brand are minimized as quirky known issues and the brand is given a free pass on its integrity, people will cover for it like its a family member in hiding I don't get it?
 
Juan For All said:
That could very well be the case and it should be when making something like the slide. I only said Norc cause ..... well .... they are cheap :)

J
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Forged steel in their .45acp 1911s....not sure about their other lines.....inexpensive yes, cheap....well, that's debatable. Build the exact same 1911 over here would cost a lot more.

I've got a GSG 1911 I muck around with and the area where the slide catch contacts has an alarming amount of wear for only 2,000 rounds or so. The slide is definitely made out of the same alloy. I've heard that Blueline is pretty good about warrantees and their GSG 1911s though.
 
This is the first thing I thought when I read your post:
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I wouldn't use that gun with the new slide. I mean clearly there is an engineering problem.
 
Baddog377 said:
What I have noticed, going out amongst my fellow shooters is a type of gun snobbery lol, where any short comings of a norc no matter how small is met with sneers of disdain and comments concerning her lineage. On the other hand any shortcomings of an expensive popular brand are minimized as quirky known issues and the brand is given a free pass on its integrity, people will cover for it like its a family member in hiding I don't get it?
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Let me guess - you're talking about another 1911 manufacturer right? The only failures I've seen at IPSC are 1911s.
 
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