chinese CQA1 AR15

Do it.

I have the 14.5" complete and a 10.5" upper on a Bushmaster lower. No problems. The 10.5" upper came with a BCG that I had to replace the firing pin retaining pin. Using Pmags/LAR10's and all is well.
 
Yes and no. Anyone into running tactical drills to use the rifle for the purpose it was built for WILL beat it up over time.

As for local competition, especially as a beginner you still can't go wrong with a Norc. If you're traveling world wide to compete, buy the Noveske like I stated above.

I understand what you're saying about buying the very best if you plan on spending tons of money travelling to competitions. However, I think that's a statement based on fear and lack of confidence. If the Norinco (or any brand of AR for that matter) works and has proven reliable, that's not going to change regardless of where you travel to use it. You might feel more secure about your decision to do so but could be baseless in actual practice.
 
I feel lost and confused. Is this the Black Rifle sub-forum on CGN? Posters are saying positive things about Norc ARs. That never happens.

Where are all the angry posters stating that if it isn't a North American Teir 1 AR it will blow up, pollute the environment, cause an NDP majority and your #### will fall off.

It's like I woke up in an alternate reality. Weird.

Yeah, the Norcs are fine.
Buy and shoot. Be happy.
Or buy something else and shoot. Be happy.
Basically, shoot and be happy.
 
I feel lost and confused. Is this the Black Rifle sub-forum on CGN? Posters are saying positive things about Norc ARs. That never happens.

Where are all the angry posters stating that if it isn't a North American Teir 1 AR it will blow up, pollute the environment, cause an NDP majority and your #### will fall off.

It's like I woke up in an alternate reality. Weird.

Yeah, the Norcs are fine.
Buy and shoot. Be happy.
Or buy something else and shoot. Be happy.
Basically, shoot and be happy.

I think people are starting to sober up to reality. While not my personal choice, the Norinco AR's appear at this point to be more reliable than other inexpensive offerings in the marketplace.
 
I feel lost and confused. Is this the Black Rifle sub-forum on CGN? Posters are saying positive things about Norc ARs. That never happens.

Where are all the angry posters stating that if it isn't a North American Teir 1 AR it will blow up, pollute the environment, cause an NDP majority and your #### will fall off.

It's like I woke up in an alternate reality. Weird.

Yeah, the Norcs are fine.
Buy and shoot. Be happy.
Or buy something else and shoot. Be happy.
Basically, shoot and be happy.

lol we are very sorry they work so well :)

I am also very sorry my M1A Norc ($450) shoots as well, and functions as well as my Springfield ($1900.00) and to be quite honest scoped or open site it shoots pretty damn close to the real deal.

The Ar platform all shares the same patten as the original Colt. All these makers of (ARs ) have to share the same specs as and from what i know of them, there are a tone of companies making this platform

Norinco still produces the ar at that same standard, and the metal seems good. However they found a way to do it at a substatial cost difference and the gun runs? its not a pretty gun, the finish is not as carefully done, and some of the fitting is well ( just look it over) but with any AR its bolt on bolt off..
it works, and works well and you can by 2 of these to everyone top brand name.
 
I feel lost and confused. Is this the Black Rifle sub-forum on CGN? Posters are saying positive things about Norc ARs. That never happens.

Where are all the angry posters stating that if it isn't a North American Teir 1 AR it will blow up, pollute the environment, cause an NDP majority and your #### will fall off.

It's like I woke up in an alternate reality. Weird.

Yeah, the Norcs are fine.
Buy and shoot. Be happy.
Or buy something else and shoot. Be happy.
Basically, shoot and be happy.

Haha, they're still out there. Here's an interesting read about the "Bush League Bubba Rigs modified by Joker Gun Smiths":

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=729412
 
If your worried about the finish (I wasn't) just wanted to make it all tactical and stuff so I gave it quick spray.



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Haha, they're still out there. Here's an interesting read about the "Bush League Bubba Rigs modified by Joker Gun Smiths":

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=729412

I'm a BIT familiar with that thread. To be fair, the issue was with cutting of FSBs not the make of the rifle.

Hey, I never did get an answer to my question from TS on that thread. d:h:
 
With all the going on lately, I made the deal. Norc CQA on the way. :)
I think it'll go perfectly with my Norc 1911 NP-29 9mm for CQB.
I'll give NEA another year before I make up my mind about their AR.
The Norcs work good enough for me and will be hacking off that FSB, no doubt. ;)
 
For what it is worth, the NEA I used had such a defective trigger group you could consider it dangerous. When it worked properly, it was so heavy I honestly thought the safety was on once. Made my Norc trigger feel like some sort of high end international supermatch type deal.

The Norc has been extremely reliable and accurate out of the gate. The NEA has cycling issues, the aforementioned trigger group problems (I didn't know that the rifles came with a burst feature).

I haven't been able to properly test what that NEA can do yet accuracy wise, needs a few part changes first. With plinking quality reloads, 10 shot, 9" groups at 300m with the Norc are easily doable.

Aesthetically the NEA wins, but on the same note, the Norc finish isn't failing at all.

If anyone reading is debating between the two, at the moment, get the Norc. Norinco has been making small arms far longer than NEA. Give NEA a few years however and I think they will have a solid, bug free product available.
 
Here's my thinking when it comes to AR's and handguns especially designed for rapid shooting type competitions.
Looking pretty has no meaning when everyone else has the same platform unless it's a good looking gal holding it. :)
I don't baby a gun that's supposed to be ready for combat so to speak. Scratches, bangs and bumps are to be expected and still be 100% reliable. Safe queens can stay at home and be admired where they belong.

I guess that's why I like the Norinco's. Nothing fancy, just ready for work and a willing Magpul slut. ;)
 
Here's my thinking when it comes to AR's and handguns especially designed for rapid shooting type competitions.
Looking pretty has no meaning when everyone else has the same platform unless it's a good looking gal holding it. :)
I don't baby a gun that's supposed to be ready for combat so to speak. Scratches, bangs and bumps are to be expected and still be 100% reliable. Safe queens can stay at home and be admired where they belong.

I guess that's why I like the Norinco's. Nothing fancy, just ready for work and a willing Magpul slut. ;)

Haha, my Norc's looks like a crack whore on East Hastings, except she eats like a fat kid at a buffet......
 
I've seen alot of literature on the net concerning these rifles, and the only drawback anyone has ever indicated is a poor finish on the rifle itself. Most of these owner's were indicating 250-500 rds with zero malfunctions (no mention to whether bolt was lubricated during shooting...)

Cheap and fun to mess around with, but don't go crazy with expensive tac add-ons. Get a cheap red-dot and have some fun!
 
Here's my thinking when it comes to AR's and handguns especially designed for rapid shooting type competitions.
Looking pretty has no meaning when everyone else has the same platform unless it's a good looking gal holding it. :)
I don't baby a gun that's supposed to be ready for combat so to speak. Scratches, bangs and bumps are to be expected and still be 100% reliable. Safe queens can stay at home and be admired where they belong.

I guess that's why I like the Norinco's. Nothing fancy, just ready for work and a willing Magpul slut. ;)

I agree. Buy a less expensive rifle. Don't have to worry about getting it scratch, bangs and bumps, then one can really 100% enjoy the fun.:rockOn: The gun that I enjoy the most is my less expensive ones.
 
I've seen alot of literature on the net concerning these rifles, and the only drawback anyone has ever indicated is a poor finish on the rifle itself. Most of these owner's were indicating 250-500 rds with zero malfunctions (no mention to whether bolt was lubricated during shooting...)

Cheap and fun to mess around with, but don't go crazy with expensive tac add-ons. Get a cheap red-dot and have some fun!

I've got about 1000 rnds through mine with no issues. I think I do a decent job of maintaining it though (drilled into my head from work) and clean it after use, and keep a thin film of CLP over all the moving parts. Not sure if it would perform the same if I never cleaned it or kept it lubed.
 
I've got about 1000 rnds through mine with no issues. I think I do a decent job of maintaining it though (drilled into my head from work) and clean it after use, and keep a thin film of CLP over all the moving parts. Not sure if it would perform the same if I never cleaned it or kept it lubed.
Take this as rumors. The guy in Target Sports told me their Norinco in house gun seldom gets cleaned and just keeps working.
 
I've owned a couple of the old 20" CQ311 ARs - they were awesome guns for the $500-ish price tag. I haven't owned one of the newer M4 style ones, but have shot a couple, and they're even better than the old ones, from what I've seen. For $600-$700, they're a good deal.
 
I've owned a couple of the old 20" CQ311 ARs - they were awesome guns for the $500-ish price tag. I haven't owned one of the newer M4 style ones, but have shot a couple, and they're even better than the old ones, from what I've seen. For $600-$700, they're a good deal.

10-4 they are much better for sure! i would say the fit and finnish are 20 to 30 % better that the old CQ311 s.

Even the inside (guts) are better fitted and no grinding mark on them.

for 700.00 bucks i have said before, why not!!!
 
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