Chinese Type 81, heard they are coming to Canada

In that article it stated the Type 81 sells for $175 a piece and does not sell too well with militaries globally as the AK pattern and Type 56 are much cheaper to produce.

With that said, I'm really hoping there isn't going to be a major markup somewhere down the line. If we can get these in here, I would hope they are no more than $7-800, factoring costs for modification to semi-auto, shipping, any paperwork, and a more than fair profit margin.

Then again, I'm not an arms dealer. I know I won't fork out a grand for this thing though.
 
Meh I'll stick with my VZs over the type 81. I remember a while back there was talk of the QBZ-03, now that's a gun I want!

Edit- I forgot to add the picture:

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Don Kael said:
In that article it stated the Type 81 sells for $175 a piece and does not sell too well with militaries globally as the AK pattern and Type 56 are much cheaper to produce.

With that said, I'm really hoping there isn't going to be a major markup somewhere down the line. If we can get these in here, I would hope they are no more than $7-800, factoring costs for modification to semi-auto, shipping, any paperwork, and a more than fair profit margin.

Then again, I'm not an arms dealer. I know I won't fork out a grand for this thing though.
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175$ for a SELECT-FIRE rifle when you order them by the thousands, sure.

Doesn't help us much, does it?
 
Don Kael said:
In that article it stated the Type 81 sells for $175 a piece and does not sell too well with militaries globally as the AK pattern and Type 56 are much cheaper to produce.

With that said, I'm really hoping there isn't going to be a major markup somewhere down the line. If we can get these in here, I would hope they are no more than $7-800, factoring costs for modification to semi-auto, shipping, any paperwork, and a more than fair profit margin.

Then again, I'm not an arms dealer. I know I won't fork out a grand for this thing though.
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No, it said it sells at that price per unit, in large military contracts where one would assum the order is for thousands, if not tens of thousands at one time.

Buy in bulk and they are cheap. Buy a couple hundred for the army of Canadian gopher and paper punches and the cost is much higher. Think of things like container ships, flights over to negotiate, employees on the importers payroll etc etc.

What it costs a retailer to buy, is not what the total cost to the dealer is. Then add profit to survive.
 
fenceline said:
No, it said it sells at that price per unit, in large military contracts where one would assum the order is for thousands, if not tens of thousands at one time.
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True, but that is also the price they TRIED to pawn them off at, and couldn't. China seems to have a relatively limited market to sell these rifles.

I'll end this argument now though. It's great to see different firearms on the market.
 
Don Kael said:
True, but that is also the price they TRIED to pawn them off at, and couldn't. China seems to have a relatively limited market to sell these rifles.

I'll end this argument now though. It's great to see different firearms on the market.
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And they won't be able to sell those specific rifles, as they were select fire, and to convert them would make them converted autos. Either way, prohibited.

For the type 81 to arrive in Canada it will arrive here as spare parts assembled on a new, semi auto only receiver. It will be a new variant of the type 81 unto itself.

Plus, china was actively looking for a market. With Canada, the market is coming to China. A small market looking for those semi-auto only receivers that have yet to be designed or built.
 
fenceline said:
No, it said it sells at that price per unit, in large military contracts where one would assum the order is for thousands, if not tens of thousands at one time.

Buy in bulk and they are cheap. Buy a couple hundred for the army of Canadian gopher and paper punches and the cost is much higher. Think of things like container ships, flights over to negotiate, employees on the importers payroll etc etc.

What it costs a retailer to buy, is not what the total cost to the dealer is. Then add profit to survive.
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I never really thought of it this way changes my perspective on the pricing for sure either way at 1199 we are still getting a great gun no doubts
 
From my understanding of the uttermost reliable source of wikipidia the type 81 would have more in common with the SKS then an actual ak so if we look at the current trend for the rcmp to make scary rifles like the type 97 and the CZ858 non restricted we may have a chance
 
BigDerp said:
Do these have significant advantages over the SKS to merit costing several times more? Or do you guys want them because they look cool? :)
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Well ya...It seems to be a glorified SKS and nothing more. $1000 extra bucks for a different version of the sks,...naw, I'll stick with the $179 version.LOL.
 
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