CIL Firearms Listing and Discussion (Canadian Industries Limited)

The 171 is a CBC. They are physically distinct from the Anschutz rifles. It is a Remake of the Rem 511 and was also sold as the Rem 525


The 300/470 is the Marochi SM64. This was confirmed by Marochi. It is interesting to note that the proof marks are Anschutz. I have an early 300 that has Anschutz, Morochi and CIL names on the receiver. Anschutz/Morochi on the right side and CIL on the left side.

The 300 seems to have had a problem with cracking at the back of the reciever though I have several that are fine. My "guess" is that putting the bolt spring back into these rifles requires a little finesse and attention to detail in order to ensure that it is correctly aligned prior to firing the first shot. If NOT correctly aligned I can see it failing in a heart beat. The 470 came in two basic variants "Non-vented" and "vented" receivers. All vented seem to have deflector shields as original but it's not true for the non-vented. Some non-vented had deflector shields (tapped holes will be present even if the shield is not) and some non-vented do not have the tapped hole for the shield. There are also variations in the way the firing pin is retained between the 470 models. Some are screwed and some are pinned.

There are also a bunch of 470's around that have CIL stamped barrels without having CIL branded receivers and as such do not "show" as a 470. I'm assuming it was a "clear them out" deal as it is highly unlikely that one person could end up with three of them unless they were an "as sold" item. I guess it's possible that someone purchased a 520 Anschutz receiver (or received one as a warranty item) to replace a broken 300/470 receiver. Cat in the hat has reported that he saw CIL rifles without model numbers delivered to the dealer so these might be them.

The single biggest problem that I have encountered with the 300/470 is that the firing pin gets fouled in the bolt and it requires disassembly and some energetic cleaning of the firing pin bore to get it smooth again. The indicator that this is probably required is misfire.
The second most common problem is a very lightly bent firing pin end that hangs it up. I've straightened a couple carefully and they have all put out hundreds of rounds after with no problem.
 
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Absolutely! Is it a blonde or a brunette? I have 300's in both "colours". The single most unique 300 I have is an early model number variety. It is under 700 by serial number! The interesting point on this 22 is the fact that it is marked with both the Anschutz and Marochi names on the right side of the receiver and CIL 300 on the left side. It has Anschutz proof marks which is interesting and the bolt is noticeably different than later models.
 
Well it turns out the CIL 900 I thought I had all these years is a Model 971C (covered by a scope base that was probably original to it's initial purchase)... After an evening of trying to chase down who manufactured it for CIL I suspect it was Krico . The 971C model highly resembles the Krico 700 model and the 971C was made in Germany according to the stampings on mine. Now if I can find a spare mag or two in .222 Rem I'll be a happy guy. Anybody got any info on this gun or can validate my suspicions on this model? I'm not sure of the years of production for the 600-700 models?
 
Ahh... NICE! I've never had any info on the 971c before... so this is very interesting! All I had for info was "222" followed by question marks!! :)
I will update my table (posted below in this thread) and start seeing what I can find... Thanks!
 
I have recently acquired a CIL model 830, chambered in 30-30 Winchester.
Threw together some loads, It shoots great! Inexpensive, but quite functional.
Dave.
 
A big problem with the CIL 300's... Blowing up cartridges and lost extractors and the bottoms blown out of the magazines. I was doing CIL warranty in the 70's at Barotto Sports in Calgary. That blow up problem seemed to follow the various actions based on the 300. Eventually I believe a shell deflector was added to the action for the shooters protection. It is about the last semi auto .22 I would want to own.
 
HI Sgt!
I've got four 125's, all Anschutz, bolt action repeaters on the Flobert 2 action. I had a 171 in my hands for a few minutes and am pretty confident it's a Remington flavour made by CBC. I have a 167 which I call a SS version of the 125 as it's got the same trigger set and flobert 2 action as the 125. I'm going to try and get some pics up of the various trigger sets used as the variations are quite intriguing to me. Thanks for the input!
Rob

Hey Rob

The CIL 125 was my first .22 , Dad & I got it at Corlanes in Dawson Cr. 1967 , I still have her , shot plenty of Ruffed's as a kid.

Also have a 300 which I haven't shot much , I'm a bolt gun fan.

... skwerl
 

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HI Denis,
Understood. I've seen a lot of broken 300's. I do however own several of both the 300's and the 470's and have for years. They see a fair amount of rounds. I've never had one break or fail to fire yet. My grandkids love them of course. Sure doesn't mean it won't happen though. I find that the later ones I've bought have all shared one common criteria. They are very poorly cleaned when I get them. I've also found in two of them that the spring was not installed correctly. The 300's are very easy to reassemble incorrectly. I still like them though - mainly 'cause the grandkids like them ... :)

Rob
 
HI Skwerl,
Thanks for the pic! I love my 125. I've worn two bolts out of her. The bolts in the flobert 2 are anything but robust and they've both broken at the same spot. I was not "gentle" in any fashion with that rifle for a lot of years and I think it's stood up pretty well for what it is. It is only now being challenged as my favourite rifle to shoot. I've been really enjoying the 900 in 222. It's the second rifle in my life that "comes up" to the eye perfectly every time if that makes sense.
Rob
 
Just acquired a CIL 233 semi auto 22.
It has the original 5 round magazine and mounted with a vintage Gevarm 3/4 inch scope.
Will give it a good cleaning and test fire as I don’t think anyone has used it since the 1970,s.
Google foo tells me it’s a Savage 85N.
It has some interesting features such as a tang safety and a case deflection tab.
Neat bit of history for sure.
 
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