Clay shooting basics for choosing a gun?

10 years ago a buddy of mine decided he wanted his first o/u and called me to ask, a used Citori he was looking at or a new Stoeger for $600 less. I said the B gun all the way so he bought the S gun. He shows up that fall for his annual fly out waterfowl hunting trip with that S gun in tow. He left his A-5 at home, brought only the Condor, no back-up gun.

Next morning we are set up and in comes the first ducks. I said they are all yours. He stands and fires his first shot and with birds still hanging over the decoys doesn't fire his second shot. I tease him, too close for you for the second shot? He says gun didnt fire, I pulled the trigger and it didn't fire. I must have done something wrong, these fat fingers I guess.

Next birds in same thing again, and again and again and this is how it goes almost each time. It fired the second shot maybe twice in a dozen attempts. He switched ammo, changed bbl firing order, checked safety and nothing. Brand new right out of the box it won't fire the second bbl 95% of the time and to this day he has never used that gun again. Its a gun safe decoration.

He finished his hunt that morning using my Winchester 101 that was on its 30th season with no less than 50,000 rounds through it and never having skipped a beat ever whether hunting or skeet shooting in those 30 years. You can't not afford a quality gun if you want your shooting experiences to be memorable in a good way.
 
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10 years ago a buddy of mine decided he wanted his first o/u and called me to ask, a used Citori he was looking at or a new Stoeger for $600 less. I said the B gun all the way so he bought the S gun. He shows up that fall for his annual fly out waterfowl hunting trip with that S gun in tow. He left his A-5 at home, brought only the Condor, no back-up gun.

Next morning we are set up and in comes the first ducks. I said they are all yours. He stands and fires his first shot and with birds still hanging over the decoys doesn't fire his second shot. I tease him, too close for you for the second shot? He says gun didnt fire, I pulled the trigger and it didn't fire. I must have done something wrong, these fat fingers I guess.

Next birds in same thing again, and again and again and this is how it goes almost each time. It fired the second shot maybe twice in a dozen attempts. He switched ammo, changed bbl firing order, checked safety and nothing. Brand new right out of the box it won't fire the second bbl 95% of the time and to this day he has never used that gun again. Its a gun safe decoration.

He finished his hunt that morning using my Winchester 101 that was on its 30th season with no less than 50,000 rounds through it and never having skipped a beat ever whether hunting or skeet shooting in those 30 years. You can't not afford a quality gun if you want your shooting experiences to be memorable in a good way.
Thanks for your input!
This post was probably the biggest help in me decide not to get the Stoeger Condor Competition.
Several people told me about their Stoeger horror stories and they all seem to have the same story.
The boys had virtually the same opinion that if I wasn’t going to spend the money to get a high end gun that the CZ Teal Target 12Ga was a very good one to start with. Has all the options I was looking for, 5 chokes, single trigger, palm swell and dual beads. Most importantly of all it felt better coming to the shoulder. The walnut is nice though overall a bit lighter than the Stoeger so tomorrow I’ll find out how it shoots!
Thanks again for all the input.
Steve
 
You may want to check the weights of competition clay guns vs cheap imports and game guns. Good quality Clay guns are built to take high volume shooting and reduce recoil
Is there any other way to reduce the felt recoil in an O/U? I know my semi has less recoil due to the cycling action absorbing some …
 
Use a lighter (less powerful) shell.

There isn't much you can do however a proper fit helps immensely as does a good recoil pad. long forcing cones, over bore barrels, long choke tubes, these things all make a difference but it's small and modern guns often have these things already done to them.
 
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