there you GO - Thats ONCE and enought
NEVER use it again ! jmo
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NEVER use it again ! jmoREALLY?
Can you think of any difference between a METAL bullet and a CLOTH snake?
If you pound on metal, does it compress? If you pound on cloth confined in a bore, do you think that will compress and stick even tighter in the bore? 
Personally I blame the public educational system for leaving the average person so ignorant of basic physics.
EXACTLY. People do not seem to understand the effect of a large gas filled space between the powder charge and the projectile and the forces that gas compression can exert on the barrel.
Clearly he has never heard of a compressed load.
When rifles arrived in my shop with broken pull throughs stuck in the barrels, the variety of things to be removed was impressive and the failed attempts to solve the basic problem were quite imaginative. A tight patch and broken cord was rarely the only problem. Those are relatively easy to remove. The steel rods, nails, knitting needles were more challenging.
If the cord is broken right at the stuck patch, a close fitting rod can often push the blockage back the way it came. Not a dowel. I had a set of drill rods in different sizes that gave me a choice of the best rod to use. The rod is close fitting to prevent buckling. Polished steel to reduce the chances of marking the bore. Polished ends with rounded edges.
One notable failure that I will not forget was a .458 Ruger No.1. I forget now what all was stuck in the bore, but laddie had really had a go at it. I managed to clear the bore using a drill with a brass collar to prevent contact with the bore. Too late Laddie had already mangled the rifling. New barrel needed. Sent it to Ruger, they installed a new barrel and refinished the action. Cost $400 all in. Not bad I thought, given what a Ruger No.1 sold for. Barreled action was as good as new. Laddie stiffed me.
If the cord is broken right at the stuck patch, a close fitting rod can often push the blockage back the way it came. Not a dowel. I had a set of drill rods in different sizes that gave me a choice of the best rod to use. The rod is close fitting to prevent buckling. Polished steel to reduce the chances of marking the bore. Polished ends with rounded edges.
One notable failure that I will not forget was a .458 Ruger No.1. I forget now what all was stuck in the bore, but laddie had really had a go at it. I managed to clear the bore using a drill with a brass collar to prevent contact with the bore. Too late Laddie had already mangled the rifling. New barrel needed. Sent it to Ruger, they installed a new barrel and refinished the action. Cost $400 all in. Not bad I thought, given what a Ruger No.1 sold for. Barreled action was as good as new. Laddie stiffed me.
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That was as very reasonable IMO. However, reminds me of a much better deal. About 25 years ago, while jaw waging with Bevin King and the subject of Ruger No1’s and he marooned that he was building himself a .404 Jeffrey but someone wanted it so he sold it but they wanted a different calibre so he still had the barrel. “Hmmmm” I says, “how much you want for it?”, he says “for you?, $100”. I says, is that installed?”, he says “sure”, I says, “is that with the 1/4 rib installed?” He looks at me and says, “ OK”, “is that blued” I ask, he looks at me and says, hey, it’s only $100, I laugh and say yeah, I know. He laughs and says “OK”. So, a custom barrel in .404 Jeffery, blued, rib installed and barrel installed all for $100. Can’t beat that with a stick. Unfortunately, the only no1 I had at the time was my .338 and I love that rifle and calibre so had to buy a gun to Rebarrel which I could not afford to do so never did get that barrel.
Another thing to regard using bore snakes is the loop on the opposite end that you pull from. If you have a large enough caliber or small enough strong string you can tie it to that end through the loop. That way if things do go hay wire you at least have a chance to pull it backwards and decompress it.
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OR ............ just don't use those stupid bore snakes and get a proper friggen cleaning rod.
OR ............ just don't use those stupid bore snakes and get a proper friggen cleaning rod.
Can’t say I disagree with that. Like many things in life they are not for everyone. I have a few. don’t use most of them much other than my 12 gauge one.
That's what I like for pulling patches through .22lr's, easy to make some weedwacker cord and a bic lighter. you can use an empty .22lr case and some sandpaper to size it.
As to the OP's problem..... I wonder what Liquid Plumber would do to a stuck bore snake.....
You know you can clean them right, same as people saying that is just a single shot rifle how do you do for following shots… you know you are allowed to carry more rounds with you….
Bore snakes are not an everyday cleaning tool and yes a one piece high quality rod is the better way to go, but like I said before if used properly they work just fine. Just like my Lee reloading press and dies, yes RCBS and Redding are better but the Lee if used properly it work just fine. The key here is used properly! If you feed a bore snake to your rifle and it is the wrong size you will get in trouble, if you pull on the rope and there is more resistance than usual, fvck stop don’t pull harder you dumb stick!!! And never pull them dry!
One thing for sure is they won’t get your bore clean, they will remover powder residue and some carbon that’s about it!
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oh I found one in my gun vault last night, still in the original package, CZ... came with my Scorpion Evo3
never even taken out of the package.
never even taken out of the package.
gewehr76
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If you have 2 left hands you are bound to lose one of them no matter bore snake or something else.
