Cleaning cord jammed

OkayShooter said:
You got lucky.

I unintentionally fired a blank with a barrel onstruction (too many patches on a jag) and didn't dislodge it.

I was handed a C9 and barrel for a exercise. And told to hurry up. So slapped the BFA on it and got on the bus. Once it was time to fire. It needless never worked, fired a couple before switching barrel.. When I got back, that when I realized was an obstruction. If your theory worked. It be close to the muzzle but was still mid barrel.

I don't think i heard any of the weapon techs using that method to try and dislodge. CGN mod Dwisy had to get a bore snake out of my C7..
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Not sure what blanks you guys were using, but BFA is an obstruction in itself. May be the obstruction was after the gas port and all gasses from your blank were just escaping back through BCG?
With semiauto its a bit more complicated due to the gas port and where the obstruction is. It may not be possible with semiauto to use the "DANGEROUS Dumbest ever suggested" method lol.
 
Can you imagine trying to hammer a jacketed bullet down your bore. Realistically, it should be way more resistance than a stuck bore snake. Would I ever try shooting it out though? Nope šŸ˜‚ Tied to a tire and fired remotely if you feel so inclined.
 
Licensed to kill said:
If it is so safe, why would I have to have ā€œgutsā€ to try it???
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For the last 3 pages of this thread you saying its dangerous to fire out stuck obstruction. obviously if its dangerous for you, then you need guts to do it, Its obviously dangerous. your words. no?

I say its not dangerous and it will not damage anything. If rifle can handle normal round firing pressure it certainly will handle empty case filled with powder and some obstruction down the barrel. shesh I wonder who give you your PAL?
 
Than you for giving me the nightmares šŸ¤£altogether with other thread about stuck round.

Seriously, I just learned so much things that I shouldn't do.
 
gewehr76 said:
For the last 3 pages of this thread you saying its dangerous to fire out stuck obstruction. obviously if its dangerous for you, then you need guts to do it, Its obviously dangerous. your words. no?

I say its not dangerous and it will not damage anything. If rifle can handle normal round firing pressure it certainly will handle empty case filled with powder and some obstruction down the barrel. shesh I wonder who give you your PAL?
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Trying to fire out an obstruction partway down a barrel with a blank anything is a good recipe for ringing a barrel.
I have been breach seating bullets with both black and Smokeless powder for many years, and there are certain things you shouldn't do- having too much dead air space between your projectile and the case is one.
Also, simply pulling the bullet out of a smokeless cartridge and expecting a charge of rifle powder to build enough pressure to dislodge a bullet an undetermined distance down the barrel is pretty optimistic.
Our breach seated cast bullet rounds use a fast pistol powder or black powder not slower Smokeless as a rule. 4895 may be an exception but I doubtbit very much.
Cat
 
If you happen to have some kind of rifle that you absolutely have to pull something through from the chamber to the muzzle, there are the Otis kits with flexible cables that have standard threads for brushes and patch holders.
I'd still clean from the muzzle with a bore guide and rod then use those to be honest, but they do work ok.
I use one of those Otis things for my 17HMR, I wasn't into buying a pricey rod just for that 1 gun, works fine, just slow.
 
iron cat said:
Trying to fire out an obstruction partway down a barrel with a blank anything is a good recipe for ringing a barrel.
I have been breach seating bullets with both black and Smokeless powder for many years, and there are certain things you shouldn't do- having too much dead air space between your projectile and the case is one.
Also, simply pulling the bullet out of a smokeless cartridge and expecting a charge of rifle powder to build enough pressure to dislodge a bullet an undetermined distance down the barrel is pretty optimistic.
Our breach seated cast bullet rounds use a fast pistol powder or black powder not slower Smokeless as a rule. 4895 may be an exception but I doubtbit very much.
Cat
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Barrel ring can occur if you shoot stuck obstruction with another bullet. Thats a good recipe. What you describe in your first sentence is not going to do any damage. Smokeless is not black powder that need to be compressed. Thats why there is a space in the smokeless cartridge. If you shake it there usually an empty volume between the charge and projectile.
Think about it.

In this OP's case, same as in the enclosed cartridge you create empty volume between charge of powder and obstruction. Unless that restriction is made of titanium it will act same as projectile. it will just get swaged down the bore and be expelled.

Obviously the snakebore will not achieve same velocity as proper bullet, but it will be dislodged and will leave the barrel.
 
gewehr76 said:
Barrel ring can occur if you shoot stuck obstruction with another bullet. Thats a good recipe. What you describe in your first sentence is not going to do any damage. Smokeless is not black powder that need to be compressed. Thats why there is a space in the smokeless cartridge. If you shake it there usually an empty volume between the charge and projectile.
Think about it.

In this OP's case, same as in the enclosed cartridge you create empty volume between charge of powder and obstruction. Unless that restriction is made of titanium it will act same as projectile. it will just get swaged down the bore and be expelled.

Obviously the snakebore will not achieve same velocity as proper bullet, but it will be dislodged and will leave the barrel.
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As I stated before, I am very famiar with shooting both Smokeless and black using both Breach seating and fixed ammunition and have been hand loading and shooting both for many years. Not all accurate BP loads are compressed BTW. Some are simply made with a filler wad with the black uncompressed.
Expecting a Smokeless factory charge of powder to dislodge an obstruction without any neck tension in the case is not going to happen IMO.
This is the very reason that Smokeless cartridges get sooted up and have a low POI on a target at 100 yards with not enough neck tension on the bullet- if at all.
Cat
 
DGY said:
Broken pull through = miss use! I never had one broke on me and I canā€™t see how it could brake. But Iā€™m sure it will happen one day. So you know I do use Mai ly good quality one piece rods
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They get old and somewhat brittle over time with repeated use and chemicals . I was reading somewhere that they should have a limited use like after 100 times you get rid of it
 
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gewehr76 said:
Thats why there is a space in the smokeless cartridge. If you shake it there usually an empty volume between the charge and projectile.
Think about it.

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Well I donā€™t know if you reload, but space in case between powder and projectile is not always a thing and I would say it is rarely a thing in my reloads and it is totally acceptable and safe.

The other thing that none mentioned here regarding your theory is generally the bullet of a cartridge ainā€™t already in the riffling, sometimes the very start of the ogive will be in contact with the riffling but rarely it will be fully engaged in the riffling and that is the key here to safety! There is what people call jump between the bullet and the riffling and that is a good thing, reduce pressure! So in the case of your theory, the ā€œbulletā€ is fully engaged in the riffling and could be close to the chamber or far from it(not that it would make a difference, so pressure could buildup quickly and cause dramatic results. I donā€™t say it canā€™t work, but I wouldnā€™t try it.
Anyway, you should purposely jammed something in your barrel and do what you suggest, make sure you do a video of it and post it here for everyone to learn from it.
But if I remember correctly from my PAL course( it wastes called that at the time) is that odd your barrel ainā€™t clear donā€™t chamber and fire anything else in it!
 
I used to use one on occasionally and it was no big deal. Then I ordered a 6mm one of Amazon and ran it in my 243. It got stuck bad, thought the string was going to break but thankfully it pulled through with enough force. Lesson learned and crisis averted.
 
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