thanks guys. i guess i should have been a little more clear. this is a brand new gun so i dont need to be doing the dremel just yet. first trip to the range on the weekend (sat) put through 50 american eagle 38 specials (158 grain) and 50 lellier&bellot 357 mag rounds (158grs) did not clean until sunday... had some buddys over sat night so the poor thing didnt get cleaned until sunday (when the wife kicked me out of bed....honey due list) its a seven shot, round cylinder (no flutes) the outer side of the cylinder has some carbon on, which will not come off using hoppes. this is my first stainless... so was a little worried about the finish.