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Okay, so I'm out at the range, just trying to get my nice new M-14 on paper. Elevation was a snap. Windage is my problem.

I've got an M14S with and ARMS#18 mount, ARMS#22 throw lever rings, and a Bushnell 4200 6-24X50 which I got a great deal on in the EE.

My problem is that even after maxing out the windage adjustment, my POI is 7 inches right of my POA. Given that I was shooting at 50 yards in order to get on paper, that means a 14MOA correction. If I'm going to shim, I'd actually like to make a correction of something more than that, as I want to be able to adjust windage in both direction when I get out to good distances.

What's the appropriate fix for this? Do I need to remove my scope mount and shim between the body of the mount and the receiver? Shim between the rings and the mount? Shim between the rings and the scope? Call Bushnell for warranty? None of the above?

Other than the windage issue, I had a great day at the range. Both of my M14's (one new, the other new to me) ran like champs and digested their diet of SA surplus without a hiccup. The Kahles scope that I've got on my AR right now just blew my mind in terms of clarity and brightness.
 
Make sure your rings aren't bent before you do any shimming. every once in a while i come across this issue with a customer. more often than not its bent rings.
 
One thing with these mounts and guns is that it's pretty common for someting to be crooked. I ended up using Millet windage adjustable rings to get my windage in line.
That Bushnell you bought doesn't have the adjustment range of alot of other scopes on the market...50" at 100m. The Elite 3200 10x40 for example has 100" at 100m. Get some windage adjustable rings instead of shimming.
 
Problem solved! :D

I read the suggestions here. I poked, I prodded, I fiddled, I fudged, I farted (big dinner the night before). I had no success.:confused:

I began to do as you suggested, Hitzy. I called Russel sports to get some Millett windage adjustable rings. Lucky for me, the guy that answered the phone was an M14 fan. Not only did he suggest the Burris rings with integral shims as a superior product, he suggested that I bring in my M14 for him to look at before he sold me anything. :eek:

Once I got there, he diagnosed my problem within five minutes. I hadn't properly centered the dovetailed block within the stripper clip guide portion of the receiver before tightening the mount into place. Once I removed and replaced the mount according to his suggestions, things fell into place properly. :cool:

I took my M14 out to the range today, and I'm loving it now.

Three dancing Bananas for Russel Sports!! :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:
 
Almost forgot!!!

Wolverine also gets a Dancing Banana!
:dancingbanana:

When I called for advice (That's where I bought my ARMS 18 mount and ARMS 22 rings), they had me talk to their smith. He was dubious that the problem was with the mount, but was 100% willing to send me a new one just in case.
 
wow .. i wish i have that kinda luck with my problems!

Congrats to those two organizations .. its this that will keep your customers coming back again and again!
 
Damn Im too late

I was gonna say your #### is about to fall off and you should sell the gun to me to break the curse:D
 
Glad to hear you got this problem solved.

I personally would not advocate shimming an M14 mount at the side attachment point................

When I installed mounts (The Cheapie $50.00 specials right up to the Smith mounts) I first checked to make sure my barrel and front sight index was true and level, and that the front sight is centered.

I then set up and installed the mount and ran a piece of fine string from the front sight to the center of the receiver heel as a reference line.

I then checked to see if the mounts rail was centered and true with the barrel.You will visually see if the mount is crooked or over to one side doing this.

The only mount that didn't sit right the first time was the Springfield Armoury Gen.III mount.Because it is aluminum, you have to take a mallet and seat the mount to the reciever with a few good whacks.............no sh*t............it is right in the instructions!!!!!!..............:rolleyes:

Also keep in mind that some of the Norinco reciever side mounts might not be true and square...............I have seen a couple of these that were a little off................

SKBY.
 
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