Closing Slide on an empty chamber
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Sadly, makes you look like one too. That said, you want to do it with your guns, fill your boots. It strikes me that the same folks that have no issue with this happening to a gun store's inventory don't want to buy the display gun - now why would that be?
Incidentally, when it comes to my 1911's don't do it.
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I've always thought it was an "Old man's tale" so to speak. But I have delt with this clown at the gun store before he really feels he is gods gift to everything guns. Like I said every owners manual I own for my pistols even my 1911 says to let it the slide release after unloading and reassembly.
Was in one of my local shops on Sun afternoon. There was a customer there I wasn't previously familiar with who had brought in his 1911 in 9mm to see if he could get some spare mags for it. When I first noticed him it was because he was dropping the slide on his pistol on an empty chamber by hitting the slide stop. I winced the first time he did it. He continued to do it several times. I figured someone might tell him that was not such a cool thing to do with a 1911 but no one did. Didn't figure it was any of my business so I didn't either.
My thought on this whole scenario... I don't do it with any of my semi-auto pistols, centerfire, rimfire, 1911 or not. But especially on 1911's. And I don't do it with other people's pistols.
Do what you want to do with you own pistols though.
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NAA.
My thought on this whole scenario... I don't do it with any of my semi-auto pistols, centerfire, rimfire, 1911 or not. But especially on 1911's. And I don't do it with other people's pistols.
Do what you want to do with you own pistols though.
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NAA.
I never do it.
Why? I know better and don't like to abuse guns. Like has already been stated, guns are designed to perform under pretty specific parameters.
Anyone heard of "limp wristing" a 1911? How about "hot loaded" ammo?
I never do the "movie" thing, flicking a revolver cylinder into the frame either.
Keep doing it and you WILL loosen up and shorten the service life of your gun.
At the same time, thumbing the slide release on an empty gun once in a while will not kill it, neither will dropping the hammer since the 1911 has an inertial firing pin, the most that would happen might be a need for a new firing pin.
Norcs mmv.
Why? I know better and don't like to abuse guns. Like has already been stated, guns are designed to perform under pretty specific parameters.
Anyone heard of "limp wristing" a 1911? How about "hot loaded" ammo?
I never do the "movie" thing, flicking a revolver cylinder into the frame either.
Keep doing it and you WILL loosen up and shorten the service life of your gun.
At the same time, thumbing the slide release on an empty gun once in a while will not kill it, neither will dropping the hammer since the 1911 has an inertial firing pin, the most that would happen might be a need for a new firing pin.
Norcs mmv.
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my guns that are "duty" guns, ill do it to them and not care but my 1911 with the nice trigger job? nooooooo way
That's it.
Yes, rude and uncouth!
Yup this, I also allways ask to dry fire
To me it would be similar to flipping the cylinder into a revolver (okay maybe not as harmful but the same level of disrespect!)
If it's not your gun, don't do it. If it's your gun, do it if you want. I won't even do it with my Glocks because I see no point to unnecessary wear.
If it's not your gun, don't do it. If it's your gun, do it if you want. I won't even do it with my Glocks because I see no point to unnecessary wear.
The slide on a 1911 is very heavy and the little pin that holds the swing link to the barrel is not as tough as it looks. Every time you let the slide hammer forward without a round to cushion that blow and slow down the slide a little you risk snapping the little pin and rendering your pistol non serviceable. And it's a ##### to get apart when that pin breaks!
The hold open catch or slide release pin also takes a beating but it's a little tougher being thicker but I've seen them break as well.
Scott
The hold open catch or slide release pin also takes a beating but it's a little tougher being thicker but I've seen them break as well.
Scott
If you look up remington R1 1911 manual pdf you'll find it in the function test section.
A lot of guns sound like they are pushing stuff out of the way even when the slide closes on an empty chamber. But it seems like 1911's have a rather harsh glass on glass like sound that tells my metal working experiences that bad things are occurring.
On the movies you'll always see the local blacksmith bounce his hammer off the anvil. In real life those old anvils had/have a very hard cast steel top face and hitting it directly with the hammer, which is also hardened, is something to be avoided. In real life any apprentice would have been severely cuffed back side of the head if they did this for that reason. It's also that sort of sound that I hear when a 1911 is allowed to slam closed without a round to slow things down.
For those of you that figure your guns are designed to withstand all manner of abuse consider that the crane on a revolver can also survive many ten's of thousands of "small explosions" if handled correctly. But the gun will soon be unshootable if subjected to swing snapping the cylinder close in the finest Hollywood style. Simply put there's "use" and then there's "AB-use".
On the movies you'll always see the local blacksmith bounce his hammer off the anvil. In real life those old anvils had/have a very hard cast steel top face and hitting it directly with the hammer, which is also hardened, is something to be avoided. In real life any apprentice would have been severely cuffed back side of the head if they did this for that reason. It's also that sort of sound that I hear when a 1911 is allowed to slam closed without a round to slow things down.
For those of you that figure your guns are designed to withstand all manner of abuse consider that the crane on a revolver can also survive many ten's of thousands of "small explosions" if handled correctly. But the gun will soon be unshootable if subjected to swing snapping the cylinder close in the finest Hollywood style. Simply put there's "use" and then there's "AB-use".
