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I’m looking for a 12 ga coach gun with auto ejectors, and internal hammer. Does such a thing exist? Something that drops open one- handed, and kicks the empties out.
20” would be preferable but I would cut down a longer gun if need be.
 
If you are just looking for a shooter then go for it.

Most competitions have specific rules regarding what you can use. For instance... In Cowboy Action Shooting your gun cannot use ejectors - you are restricted to extractors. The extractors will push the expended rounds out a little way so you can grab them and pull them clear of the gun. There are ways to slick it up so you can eject the rounds by a fancy jerk of the gun to the rear but that is another subject. The most common coach guns nowadays are the internal hammer design. I personally like the looks of the hammered kind but use the internal one for competition. The internal hammer guns will not drop open like the hammered style because the action of opening the gun also cocks the internal hammers so there is more resistance thus necessitating two hands to open it. If you cut a regular sized gun down there will be even less weight on the forward end so it is even harder to "break" it (open that is). 20" is the most common length but you have to be careful when cutting it down. It is not as easy as just taking a hacksaw and cutting the ends off. Your best bet would be to have a professional or at least someone who has done it before to do it for you.

If you only want a short shotgun then just ignore everything I said here and go have fun.

Gerry
 
Thank you Sir for the explanation, I guess I cannot have a gun that is internal hammer and also falls open with one hand operation. I will still look for an internal hammer though.
I found some guns with ejectors on tradex however they are full length so I’d have to cut them down.
Does anybody make a short coach gun with ejectors?
I don’t do any cowboy action shooting, the use would be for grouse hunting and wildlife defence.
 
You might want to avoid O/U guns. I recently bought a Maverick O/U will 18" barrels, and it has some drawbacks. You really have to be aggressive opening it, so you can get ahold of the bottom cartridge. On the plus side, it has choke tubes, so it can actually be used for hunting grouse, rabbits, etc. I used to have a 14" Benelli that I was relieved to sell for as much as I paid for it. A barrel that short is almost useless for anything other than "room clearing". I tested shot patterns, and to be honest, no pattern exists.
 
That desperado over/ under looks interesting, and it does have ejectors. However I'd like to get a SxS since thats what I'm used to. I'm currently using a savage/ fox 311 cut down to 20" and its great, just want a gun with ejectors.

As for chokes, I don't want any, just cylinder bore. From my experience its much more useful than just "room clearing" (although I've never done that ) For real though, my cylinder bore 20" double has been absolutely awesome on knocking down flushing grouse in thick to moderate cover. If you've hunted spooky grouse you know that the action is fast and furious, there is no "swinging" the gun, you hear the grouse and start shouldering the gun, when you glimpse him you pull the trigger just as the stock hits your shoulder. The wide pattern is what allows success, and it only takes one or two #8 pellets to knock them down, they are very wimpy birds. No problem out to 30 yards or so.

I also carried that gun grouse hunting/ deer scouting last fall. On the way back the trail to the truck along came a bull moose (during the rut) He stared me down and I spent a couple minutes trying to scare him off by yelling and firing birdshot in the bushes beside him. I was kind of tense about quickly reloading and wanting to quickly put slugs in if he charged. Hence my desire for ejectors in my shotgun for wildlife defence scenarios. (luckily the moose did run off)
 
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That desperado looks amazing! One thing to keep in mind when it comes to ejectors is the reliability of the system. I'm always hesitant of some of the lower end shotguns and whether or not they reliably eject. I've also seen some lower end systems that get finicky with ammo they will eject reliably (usually only do high brass). Something to consider in your quest.
 
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