It wasn't ditched, it was second line service for many years, some being used in Russia still today by military security etc. As well it has been used successfully by many countries and freedom fighters for decades. They wouldn't have continued to make Millions of them for decades if they were junk, but to each his own...
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It wasn't ditched, it was second line service for many years, some being used in Russia still today by military security etc. As well it has been used successfully by many countries and freedom fighters for decades. They wouldn't have continued to make Millions of them for decades if they were junk, but to each his own...
That's pretty funny that is, I can see you know nothing of the history of this fine firearm. I paid $169 for mine, 60 years old is still a beauty that fired on target right out of the box, never has jammed and the ammo can be had for as little as .14 cents a round.
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The vz58 line has heritage, but none of the ones we have were anything part of making that heritage. They are either cobbled together from parts and barrels that aren't the same length as the original design, or they are new. The ones we have were never held by a soldier. They are clones of the milsurps that made they history that the ones we own ride up. It like saying my aero precision ar15 has history because it is a semi auto variant of the gun that was used in Vietnam.
The SKS was there, as issued, and as it was when it was the primary arm of one of the two largest sides in the Cold War. The SKS we have are milsurps, with history themselves. The vz58 we have are not.
That is what I meant by the vz58 we have, have no history of their own. Heritage and history are not the same. The SKS has history, the vz58 comes from a heritage.
Um I am pretty sure the ak47 and eventually the 74 was the primary arm of the ussr during the cold war, at which point the sks was either stuffed in warstock or put in the hands of the reserves. Then eventually it was shipped off into the hands of nobodies because well the soviets needed the space for their spare aks.
If you like your sks great, I looked at it as a way to make money, for the effort, not worth it. And I don't see any reason to purchase one for myself because the vz outperforms it in multiple regards.
As for all this tingliness and all that, my hex receiver nagant with its funky marks is all the collector jibberish I need.
To whoever was talking about fancy this and that I don't see the vz as a fancy rifle it's quite inexpensive and numerous in volume. The one with the folding stock has approximately 1700 rounds down the tube, the one with the fixed stock has around 500. Now if I had a real G36 like that one on ee for 9k or whatever he is asking, that's a different story. Yes thats a fancy rifle at an exorbent expense. But a vz? Really?
How long was it in the frontline service of any remotely serious military? Now lets compare that to the ak or any of their derivatives or the vz. You want an inexpensive fun plinker go nuts, enjoy. Don't try and tell me that this is such an amazing piece of military hardware. It's not. It's a fun inexpensive rifle that shoots a serious cartridge with moderate reliability and accuracy.
You like your fine rifle great, don't try to argue the facts. Some nobodies from vietnam and north korea used it, because you know the viet cong were the forefathers of sas right?
On a sidenote don't let me stop you. Carry on with the discussions, others that were interested in the sks can still benefit from this thread.
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DJdeadlyDALEK
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We get it. You don't like the SKS. We do. Now kindly go away
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Never mind. You don't get the angle I'm spinning.
The SKS I own, was the rifle that was issued. Unless you got a full auto vz58, yours has no collector value at all. The gun has heritage, but no prominence. No army ever issued a CSA vz58, or a cz858.
The SKS I own, was the rifle that was issued. Unless you got a full auto vz58, yours has no collector value at all. The gun has heritage, but no prominence. No army ever issued a CSA vz58, or a cz858.
Apart from Russia, they have been produced in the millions by China. They have also been built in Romania, North Korea, East Germany, Albania, Yugoslavia, even North Vietnam, and have been sold all over the world. What an embarrassment
Again I reiterate, its pretty clear you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to the history of this rifle. I'm not in the business of educating though, I just like to point out foolishness when I see it
Carry on
Ar180shooter
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The middle SKS is my "collector" one. It's a 1949, refurbed, but mostly matching (receiver, machined takedown lever, magazine, dust cover are original and match, but the bolt is not matched/improper for a rifle of that date, and the stock is not original). The one below is another refurb, 1951 Tula, all original/matching except for the stock.
The middle SKS is my "collector" one. It's a 1949, refurbed, but mostly matching (receiver, machined takedown lever, magazine, dust cover are original and match, but the bolt is not matched/improper for a rifle of that date, and the stock is not original). The one below is another refurb, 1951 Tula, all original/matching except for the stock.
I thought all the 49's had a spiked bayonet?
They should. The blade bayo on his is a refurb...
DJdeadlyDALEK
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No, not all. A late '49 would have a blade
DJdeadlyDALEK
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I think they'd cost around the same
If it is a polished steel then it is probably original, I saw the pic and it looked dull finish, hard to tell though. Would need confirmation...
DJdeadlyDALEK
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Yeah his totally looked like a refurbished bayo
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I don't think there's a '49 available with its original as-issued bayo, cruciform or blade... they were all refurbished (blued or painted and picked from a pile). "Spike" is cool though, and certainly commands a premium.
To the OP, quit PMing me whining about the history of the SKS
You post about SKSs and their collect-ability, which in of itself indicates you don't know much about SKSs and that's all well and fine, some people were willing to educate you. But then you try to school us all on The sks is the east bloc embarrasment that was ditched in short order Again indicating you know nothing about the history of the SKS and why it became a second line firearm. You keep trying to solicit me to educate you but really its not education you want, you want me to argue with you and I'm not biting on it because I already see you for what you are... crawl back under your rock troll, I won't be engaging you beyond exposing you.
To Everyone else...
This guy asks about collect-ability, then draws in the SKS crowd, then confesses he only wants to sell them and says what an embarrassment they are. Now he's trying to goad me into a PM argument about his stance.... he's a friggin' troll
Peace
You post about SKSs and their collect-ability, which in of itself indicates you don't know much about SKSs and that's all well and fine, some people were willing to educate you. But then you try to school us all on The sks is the east bloc embarrasment that was ditched in short order Again indicating you know nothing about the history of the SKS and why it became a second line firearm. You keep trying to solicit me to educate you but really its not education you want, you want me to argue with you and I'm not biting on it because I already see you for what you are... crawl back under your rock troll, I won't be engaging you beyond exposing you.
To Everyone else...
This guy asks about collect-ability, then draws in the SKS crowd, then confesses he only wants to sell them and says what an embarrassment they are. Now he's trying to goad me into a PM argument about his stance.... he's a friggin' troll
Peace
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Nothing wrong with trying to make a few bucks, but hey to start an uneducated argument .... get a life! If he wants to have an educated argument with someone, well here I am! Here is the rules though, no name calling ( no need), no redundant statements that have nothing to do with the debate, and let's keep it civil! ( pm only).
