collectible sks

Mr_jonny said:
Nothing wrong with trying to make a few bucks, but hey to start an uneducated argument .... get a life! If he wants to have an educated argument with someone, well here I am! Here is the rules though, no name calling ( no need), no redundant statements that have nothing to do with the debate, and let's keep it civil! ( pm only).
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Have fun, he asked me to show him where the SKS killed Hitler or Julius Caesar... He wants to fight and when I don't engage him he tries again and again

And of course making money is fine, my point is I don't believe him, this entire thread was a troll for him.... as I said, he draws in the SKS crowd and then says what an embarrassment the SKS is.

Its quite amusing though to see his frustration that I won't engage
 
I am a collector of sorts & the production #'s on SKS's alone keep me away from them. *OK, have one but its a shooter so there!*
Spend the $ on a SVT-40. Those will rise in value faster than than any SKS.
 
I can't imagine owning any gun and not firing it, even if it was a collectors item.

Oh and FYI the OP just basically admitted to me in a PM he was trolling... keep your eye out for this winner
 
canadianpatriot said:
...he asked me to show him where the SKS killed Hitler or Julius Caesar...

Mind blown...:rolleyes:

In a separate thread we were discussing pre-49 sks's and that was difficult enough to wrap my head around! But I tell ya, I would love to see the sks that smoked Caesar!!
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me too!!! maybe i just bought it. mine is kind of old….like your avatar
 
CZ_Brno said:
Bought 2 of those from tradex.

Non refurb", no x's on stock, matching serial numbers. Almost new condition.
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I got one refurb with ###'s on stock and one "Select" that had no ###'s but had the butt plates painted. If the butt plate is painted they are REFURB!!! Light refurb but still refurb. I hate it when they are all selling these like they are unrefurb but they are.
 
points said:
Other than that, if you remeber the Pokeman craze,,, need I say more?
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gotta...catch'em all?

@op: the fact that SKS were quickly replaced in front line service by the AK wasn't due to the fact that the SKS was crap, but simply due to timing. The AK, which was obviously superior in the fact that it was select fire and shorter and less cumbersome, simply came too soon after the SKS was brought into service. the SKS was built for a different philosophy of use which was quickly replaced by one which favoured a carbine length rifle with select fire capability and detachable box magazines. a two year difference in the beginning of the SKS vs the AK simply means that the SKS probably never even had the chance to be fully fielded by the soviets troops before they saw the AK as a more suitable option. It is also fact that during the time which the SKS was tasked for service prior to the AK there was little conflict for it to be involved in.

in short SKSs are not shi* they simply arrived at an interim stage of military philosophy. just prior to a paradigm shift if you will.
 
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ljones said:
I got one refurb with ###'s on stock and one "Select" that had no ###'s but had the butt plates painted. If the butt plate is painted they are REFURB!!! Light refurb but still refurb. I hate it when they are all selling these like they are unrefurb but they are.
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Refurb really means nothing if its only limited to a few reversible parts. Typically, ALL SKS's went through the refurb process, its just that some had work done to them, some had signficant work done to them, some were left alone. I am willing to bet if you removed the black paint on the buttplate, there's fully intact bluing underneath. I have seen about a dozen "painted buttplate refurbs" and all of them had no refurb stamp, nothing else touched, and in the few cases I tracked, the paint on the buttplate was easily removed with acetone, thus undoing "refurb".
 
The Kurgan said:
Refurb really means nothing if its only limited to a few reversible parts. Typically, ALL SKS's went through the refurb process, its just that some had work done to them, some had signficant work done to them, some were left alone. I am willing to bet if you removed the black paint on the buttplate, there's fully intact bluing underneath. I have seen about a dozen "painted buttplate refurbs" and all of them had no refurb stamp, nothing else touched, and in the few cases I tracked, the paint on the buttplate was easily removed with acetone, thus undoing "refurb".
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Yeah I found out later I was able to scratch off the "paint" with my fingernail. I just wasn't sure at what point do you call it unrefurb, refurb, select or any of the other terms. What are the guidelines? How do you know? if I ever go to sell any down the road how would I honestly market it as? This is what has me confused. Is there a set standard so all know or are we making it up as we go along?
 
ljones said:
Yeah I found out later I was able to scratch off the "paint" with my fingernail. I just wasn't sure at what point do you call it unrefurb, refurb, select or any of the other terms. What are the guidelines? How do you know? if I ever go to sell any down the road how would I honestly market it as? This is what has me confused. Is there a set standard so all know or are we making it up as we go along?
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scraping some paint of the buttplate is more of a "cleaning", and certainly doesn't qualify it as a refurb if nothing has been refurbished. I think you can spend more time cleaning off cosmo than some poorly applied paint on the buttplate. As far as SKS's go, there are no standards! ;)
 
The Kurgan said:
scraping some paint of the buttplate is more of a "cleaning", and certainly doesn't qualify it as a refurb if nothing has been refurbished. I think you can spend more time cleaning off cosmo than some poorly applied paint on the buttplate. As far as SKS's go, there are no standards! ;)
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Okay good to know, Thanks Kurgan :cheers:
 
ljones said:
I got one refurb with ###'s on stock and one "Select" that had no ###'s but had the butt plates painted. If the butt plate is painted they are REFURB!!! Light refurb but still refurb. I hate it when they are all selling these like they are unrefurb but they are.
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Just wondering why this poster thought he was getting a non re-furbished SKS from Trade-Ex when he bought a select SKS? Trade-Ex does not list/advertise their select SKS as not re-furb! only as select.

Like others have said before, all the SKS's coming into Canada are re-furbished, some more than others, I have seen them unpacked from the military storage crates and they are a mix of laminated, ###X'ed stocks, rebuilt and matching like new ones.

Now some of the persons re-selling them as non re-furbished are in fact getting them from the same source and just cherry picking the best ones so they can charge a premium for them. They are by no means selling all the best ones themselves.

As for the black paint on the butt plates, this was liberally applied and done at the arsenal just before storage to cover any bare metal from rack wear. It normally only covers the ends and butt screws, and is easy to remove and most times shows it was covering very little bluing loss underneath.
 
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