I suspect the CC rifles will be expensive. I don't think they will be worth the extra dollars aside from a nice and neat to have. If you can get a US colt for 500 cheaper then I would go that route in a heartbeat. I would then change the barrel to a length I want rather then be stuck with a 16 inch one. I would likely put a DD bbl on as I prefer shorter bbls.
Colt Canada rifles to the public?
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Ya surplus sold is done at crazy prices. That said the military has huge QC requirements for their ammo - all CF has to go through certifications to be accepted. They pay for that. If the ammo is made to spec they still wanna recoup money or right it off completely.
When people talk of Milspec on non military equipment my take on it is that the parts are built to the dimensions and tolerances laid out in the TDP.
This means that any part built to Milspec dimensions and tolerances will fit into any other firearm built to the same specs.
This does not mean that it is of better quality or of greater accuracy.
It merely means that the part will fit and work properly.
JP Rifles are not built to Milspec but I'm sure that they will surpass 99% of Milspec rifles in accuracy.
This means that any part built to Milspec dimensions and tolerances will fit into any other firearm built to the same specs.
This does not mean that it is of better quality or of greater accuracy.
It merely means that the part will fit and work properly.
JP Rifles are not built to Milspec but I'm sure that they will surpass 99% of Milspec rifles in accuracy.
The AR was built and is built for shooting people at ranges of 500 yards or less, they are not match grade rifles nor were they ever designed to be. Many need to keep this in mind when they b*tch and moan about "accuracy" with a service rifle. That being said, there are no shortage of rack grade AR's that shoot very well, and don't forget that the rifle is but a part of the equation, ammo is a major factor.
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Any 2moa rifle can easily hit a man sized torso (18") at 500y if you take out the biggest part of the equation.
The human behind the rifle.
That being said there are many AR-15 manufacturers out there that can produce a rifle to proper dimensional specs with much better accuracy than 2MOA.
Noveske, LMT, BCM, Les Baer, Wilson Combat to name but a few.
"mil spec" is not only about dimension, but every thing in the process from material testing/ certification, to quality control method and all the way down to how the end product is packaged.
You can argue that a XYZ brand rifle performs better than a Colt M4, but the "process behind" the Colt M4 which makes it milspec ensures all 500,000 units out there demonstrate a degree of consistence accepted by the military, versus a shop that makes 5000 a year that deal with problems as they happen through the customer service counter. It is a game of statistics - 1000 bad apples out of 500,000 units versus 100 bad apples out of 5000 units.
With a service weapon, the end user cannot call the customer service counter to deal with problems, so the rate of problem occurence need to be controlled at manufacturing, and manufacturing starts from the raw materials and ends with the products at the loading dock completed with proper packaging, hence "milspec".
I fully agree, and a rifle with a higher degree of performance is never a bad thing. I 'm just saying that people need to stop expecting a sub MOA rifle from a service gun, and without a skilled shooter and premium ammo the rifle will never shoot to its potential.
TDC
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Mirage at 500 is of more concern than shooting a 1 or 2 moa rifle.
Only one week left of June, has anybody heard news of any kind?
Also would anybody know of the gas systems on these rifles, by that I mean is the 15.7" a carbine length gas system versus the 20" barrelled model using a rifle length gas system as an example. Thanks in advance for any info.
Also would anybody know of the gas systems on these rifles, by that I mean is the 15.7" a carbine length gas system versus the 20" barrelled model using a rifle length gas system as an example. Thanks in advance for any info.
Colt Canada is waiting till the AR-15 goes non-restricted before they will release them.
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I don't see why they wouldn't be. If they threw middy gas system under the rifle length handguards on the C7 it'd be pretty nonsensical.
It was a joke. Some of you got it.
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