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Hello
So last night my son and I watched Outlaw Josey Wales.( first time for him and about 20 th for me)
Anyway, now he wants a colt Navy.. lol

I’m thinking a knock off will do.

Are these chambered in anything modern? 45 LC maybe?
I’d like to roll my own,what’s best?
What’s the difference between antique and modern knock offs?
Any recommendations of a pistol that don’t cost a fortune?

Any info would help and would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Brian
 
Brian: Check out Uberti single action revolvers. Perhaps a Colt Navy conversion, or similar? Several models and types to choose from. These revolvers feature a selection of barrel lengths and are chambered in 45 Colt and .38 Special(Most common chamberings). If a percussion revolver is more your style(correct for the movie), either Pietta, or Uberti. My personal choice is Pietta. But either brand are good quality.

As far as reloading for these revolvers goes, it is a matter of personal choice. Reloading cost of .38 Special for example, ie: component cost, will be
cheaper than .45 Colt. Something to consider.

Another option: Colt .44 caliber Army Model percussion revolvers. These can easily convert to .45 Colt cartridge firing, by swapping in a cartridge conversion cylinder. A very versatile choice. Check out Taylors, for examples of these. Worth a look. Note: You can also get conversion cylinders for the .36 caliber 1851 Colt Navy percussion model. A bit fussier to convert to cartridge firing than the .45's, but workable. A better option: Uberti 1871/72 "Open Top" revolver. Also worth considering. Have a pair of these(1871) in .38 Special. Really like them.

As for differences/similarities between antique vs modern reproduction revolvers...these revolvers won't be exact duplicates of original Colt revolvers. Though pretty close. The biggest difference between the two will be in the steel used in modern revolvers. Much superior metallurgy.

If an 1873 Colt revolver might better suit....Pietta makes one of the nicest on the market. At least in my opinion. Very faithful to the originals. Reasonably priced and good quality. Check out site sponsor: Marstar, for model choices.

Al
 
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Thanks for the info,
I’m not sure if I should go cap and ball or get something more modern.
I’ll have to discuss it with him.
I think it’s more of the look of the gun as opposed to caliber.

I do have some 45 reloading gear and components kicking around.
 
45C said:
Hello
So last night my son and I watched Outlaw Josey Wales.( first time for him and about 20 th for me)
Anyway, now he wants a colt Navy.. lol

I’m thinking a knock off will do.

Are these chambered in anything modern? 45 LC maybe?
I’d like to roll my own,what’s best?
What’s the difference between antique and modern knock offs?
Any recommendations of a pistol that don’t cost a fortune?

Any info would help and would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Brian
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Get him an 1847 Walker replica.
Clint Eastwood carried two Walkers and an 1860 Army in his belt in that movie.
 
cap and ball is fun and cheap to shoot as long as you can find black powder which is in short supply right now. marstar has lots of pietta's to drool over...
 
45C said:
Thanks for the info,
I’m not sure if I should go cap and ball or get something more modern.
I’ll have to discuss it with him.
I think it’s more of the look of the gun as opposed to caliber.

I do have some 45 reloading gear and components kicking around.
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You can get conversions for the navy that will let you fire 38 Special in. Don't load them hot. - dan
 
45C/Brian: I agree with Dan Belisle. If you like the looks of the Colt 1851 Navy revolver, the very popular Uberti 1851 Navy cartridge conversion in .38 Special is a nicely balanced, fun revolver to shoot. A while back, Hickock45 did a you tube review of this revolver. Worth viewing.
If you already have .45 Colt reloading dies etc., and prefer to go that direction, an Uberti 1860 Colt Army conversion would also do very well.

Al
 
I love the open tops. I have 2. 1 is a 1871 NAVY with a 4 3/4" barrel and it has an 1873 style loading gate and ejector rod ( .38 special ) It is a UBERTI. My second one is very cool, it is a CIMMARRON MAN WITH NO NAME 1851. It has a 7 1/2 barrel in .38, plus it does have a 1873 style loading gate (not real authentic but alot handier than removing the cylinder) it also still has the black powder loading lever that separates to poke out empties ( I just use a little screwdriver) here is a pic of one , not mine just a pic off the net.Wolverine's webpage but not in stock. the old price is 784.99. I bought mine years ago used but mint.

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I love the open tops. I have 2. 1 is a 1871 NAVY with a 4 3/4" barrel and it has an 1873 style loading gate and ejector rod ( .38 special ) It is a UBERTI. My second one is very cool, it is a CIMMARRON MAN WITH NO NAME 1851. It has a 7 1/2 barrel in .38, plus it does have a 1873 style loading gate (not real authentic but alot handier than removing the cylinder) it also still has the black powder loading lever that separates to poke out empties ( I just use a little screwdriver) here is a pic of one , not mine just a pic off the net.Wolverine's webpage but not in stock. the old price is 784.99. I bought mine years ago used but mint.

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Yes, that’s what I’m looking for.
 
mine is a CIMMARON, not sure but TAYLOR might sell one too. WOLVERINE has it or had it on their webpage, call them. not sure who else does. just start looking thru the different vendors sites. With that 7 1/2" octogon barrel she's heavy but very cool.

GOOD LUCK STEVE
 
For general information about what is involved with converting a percussion revolver to cartridge, have a look at kirstkonverter.com.
 
As tiriaq suggests, kirst may have a conversion cylinder for that model. Taylor's does, also. When ordering conversion cylinders, be sure to specify revolver make. In this case, Pietta. The Taylor's cylinders are a "drop in", which don't require any frame modification. Have a good look at both systems, before deciding which one you like best.
 
barny961 said:
I love the open tops. I have 2. 1 is a 1871 NAVY with a 4 3/4" barrel and it has an 1873 style loading gate and ejector rod ( .38 special ) It is a UBERTI. My second one is very cool, it is a CIMMARRON MAN WITH NO NAME 1851. It has a 7 1/2 barrel in .38, plus it does have a 1873 style loading gate (not real authentic but alot handier than removing the cylinder) it also still has the black powder loading lever that separates to poke out empties ( I just use a little screwdriver) here is a pic of one , not mine just a pic off the net.Wolverine's webpage but not in stock. the old price is 784.99. I bought mine years ago used but mint.

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Not a lot around to be had.
Want to sell that one … lol
 
The 1851 Navy has to be right up there with the those forerms that just simply are eye candy. I have read they were the pistols Bill Hickock carried.

I was late in coming to the coal burners and enjoy loading and shooting my two Remington 1858's. There is noting in the shooting world like shooting black powder into the wind. NOTHING!

The conversion models are nice. Buying the 38spl version would be closer to what was popular back in the day ie 36ca. I think maybe this spring it will be time to let the Queen breath and get one of those conversion models in 38spl. I already down load 38spl rounds for my antique Colt New Navy in 38 so life would be good with the conversion SA revolver.

Take Care

Bob
 
View attachment 553573I found one in the US and I’ll see if I can get it imported through PR.
I found it on Guns for sale America.
They contacted me via text and asked for payment via Zelle.
They said they have their own export agents.
Anybody ever hear of them
 
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45C: The first couple of lines gave it away. This ad has all the markers of a scam. Awkwardly worded(English clearly not the first language of the person behind it). The request for Zelle as payment(Popular with scammers). Before transacting any business with this seller...or even contacting them...., I'd very thoroughly check them out. Seems to be a lot of this type of scam going around lately. Have seen it on several gun-related sites.

ps: Just did a quick check of gunsforsalesusa.com. Site does not appear to exist. At least, it came up as not found.
 
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