COLT or BUSHMASTER?

I own Bushmasters, armalite, and colt....I prefer the Bushmaster......ooops don't own colt any more sold it!! :twisted: :lol: Bushmaster first....Armalite second...........want to try a Rock River. Wifey Prefers Armalite, not that that matters!!! :lol: hope she aint on this site!! :)
 
KevinB said:
Sparrow - its just you guys... :mrgreen:
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Smartass! :lol: For everyones info, Kevin was in on the ground floor of our 6920 troubles, his conclusion was a bad batch of barrels, this would explain all my units and Wrechgod's as they were very close serial numbers, but it did not explain the new 6921 14.5" barrels, also the fact the Armalite and Bushy barrels cured any accuracy woes.
 
t6chan said:
I think Colt have been making bad batches of guns ever since 1970 when they started letting things slip...
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Its too bad they are slipping!! If you think,they have made some pretty decent stuff over the years.Eg:SAA1873,1911A1,Colt Python.etc.
 
I've seen a lot more good Colt barrels than bad. A lot of problems are either due to excessive torquing of flashhiders, or use of poorly constructed and designed Flash Hiders.

I recommend anyone having accuracy issues that they beleive to be the barrel check the barrel first, to ensure it is torqued on properly, secondtl try shooting groups without your flashhider one. I've seen a bunch of A2 style flash hiders open a group up over 50%, and I have seen worse designs cause more than a 100% increase in dispersion.

One of the best factory Chrome lined barrels I have shot is a Colt RO921HB M4A1 14.5" barrel. (The best being a Diemaco C8 in a KAC Freefloat using 69gr SMK's, while down at KAC)
 
If the flash hider is bored non concentric to the bore (or the bore is non concentric to the barrel - and I've seen that happen) the bullet can be either impacted (worst case) by the flash hider or be somewhat unstabilized by passing close to it (unequal disruption of the air surrounding the bullet - with increased velocity (increased air pressure on the bullet) this is magnified.

Having seen the Roster version and knowing how much effort he puts into projects I would make an educated guess that he manufacturing them with tight tolerances. However many makers out source their flash hider and they are built in great volume at lower tolerance.

As for my experiences with flash hiders - My Rooster vortex/phantom combo's where acquired by members of another unit who liked them - so I never tested them... I am interested in getting more.
KAC and Smith Enterprises have the tightest tolerance I have seen -- I would not use others...
 
Friends don't let friends by Colt's. Bushmaster or just about any other AR clone is better than a Colt. The new S&W MP-15 is a very nice M4-type carbine. These are my beefs with Colt:
1. The stupid double headed screw for the upper and lower receivers. Everyone else uses the captive front and rear push pins. Much more sensible.
2. The oversize trigger and hammer pins (0.156 inch) versus the Mil-Std 0.125 inch diameter pins. The oversize pins mean only Colt hammers, triggers, and disconnectors can be used. No such problem with spares for other AR clones or their military counterparts.
3. The butchered back end of the Colt bolt carriers. Why Colt milled off the bottom side at the rear of the bolt carrier is unknown. However, it looks like hell and, I think, weakens the bolt carrier.

In the end, you pay your money and make your choice. I have three AR-type rifles all built from parts on Olympic/SGW lower receivers. They lock up tight with G.I. parts, and they shot just fine. I have owned Colts in the past, but I wouldn't have one of their current production guns. The quality isn't the best.
 
MasterGunner said:
Friends don't let friends by Colt's. Bushmaster or just about any other AR clone is better than a Colt. The new S&W MP-15 is a very nice M4-type carbine. These are my beefs with Colt:
1. The stupid double headed screw for the upper and lower receivers. Everyone else uses the captive front and rear push pins. Much more sensible.
2. The oversize trigger and hammer pins (0.156 inch) versus the Mil-Std 0.125 inch diameter pins. The oversize pins mean only Colt hammers, triggers, and disconnectors can be used. No such problem with spares for other AR clones or their military counterparts.
3. The butchered back end of the Colt bolt carriers. Why Colt milled off the bottom side at the rear of the bolt carrier is unknown. However, it looks like hell and, I think, weakens the bolt carrier.

In the end, you pay your money and make your choice. I have three AR-type rifles all built from parts on Olympic/SGW lower receivers. They lock up tight with G.I. parts, and they shot just fine. I have owned Colts in the past, but I wouldn't have one of their current production guns. The quality isn't the best.
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Uh... welcome to the 1994 AWB...... Seriously, you can get a Colt about as Mil-spec as they use in the armed forces minus the extra fire selector setting.
 
MasterGunner said:
Friends don't let friends by Colt's. Bushmaster or just about any other AR clone is better than a Colt. The new S&W MP-15 is a very nice M4-type carbine. These are my beefs with Colt:
1. The stupid double headed screw for the upper and lower receivers. Everyone else uses the captive front and rear push pins. Much more sensible.
2. The oversize trigger and hammer pins (0.156 inch) versus the Mil-Std 0.125 inch diameter pins. The oversize pins mean only Colt hammers, triggers, and disconnectors can be used. No such problem with spares for other AR clones or their military counterparts.
3. The butchered back end of the Colt bolt carriers. Why Colt milled off the bottom side at the rear of the bolt carrier is unknown. However, it looks like hell and, I think, weakens the bolt carrier.

In the end, you pay your money and make your choice. I have three AR-type rifles all built from parts on Olympic/SGW lower receivers. They lock up tight with G.I. parts, and they shot just fine. I have owned Colts in the past, but I wouldn't have one of their current production guns. The quality isn't the best.
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Ha, ha, haaaaahaaaaaaahaahaaa, hahahhhaaaaaaa, hardy haaahahhha!!!!!!

Ya, right.

If you can find one, COLT is still the only logical choice; if you can't find one, you'd be better off with an LMT or a Stag than a Bushmaster or Armalite. From the sound of it, if Knight's new M4 makes it up this way, we'll finally have a worthy successor to unobtanium Colt carbines.
 
Well I have to vote for Bushmaster. Owned a 20" Colt heavy A2 and bought a full 16" Bushy M4 and to my suprise the 16" grouped better and stayed tighter out to 600m. I now have 4200 rounds thru my M4 and it has performed flawless. What can I say. I was a AR Colt fan (1 - 7 twist) just like my father but we have both been converted by the performance of Bushmaster.

Darb
 
MasterGunner said:
Friends don't let friends by Colt's. Bushmaster or just about any other AR clone is better than a Colt. The new S&W MP-15 is a very nice M4-type carbine. These are my beefs with Colt:
1. The stupid double headed screw for the upper and lower receivers. Everyone else uses the captive front and rear push pins. Much more sensible.
2. The oversize trigger and hammer pins (0.156 inch) versus the Mil-Std 0.125 inch diameter pins. The oversize pins mean only Colt hammers, triggers, and disconnectors can be used. No such problem with spares for other AR clones or their military counterparts.
3. The butchered back end of the Colt bolt carriers. Why Colt milled off the bottom side at the rear of the bolt carrier is unknown. However, it looks like hell and, I think, weakens the bolt carrier.

In the end, you pay your money and make your choice. I have three AR-type rifles all built from parts on Olympic/SGW lower receivers. They lock up tight with G.I. parts, and they shot just fine. I have owned Colts in the past, but I wouldn't have one of their current production guns. The quality isn't the best.
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I guess that's why our shooting buddies in the US, where they can still buy Colt, are paying a premium price. If you check out AR15.com, you'll find that most people there believe that most other makes are still measured against Colt, with the possible exception of LMT. That said, it doesn't mean that the Bushmasters, Armalites, Stags, etc. are bad. For civilian use, the requirements are much less stringent and we don't really need every part MP tested and inspected to mil standards. Besides, the Colt HBAR you're talking about hasn't been made for quite awhile now.
 
if you drink cool-aid then COLT...if you are reasonable then get a Bushy and use the money that you saved to buy extra ammo. I have used my Bushy side by side with Colts and wouldn't have a problem turning a Colt away just because of their arrogance.

Boltgun
 
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