"Competition" gun means what???

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I'm trying to get a good idea on what my first gun purchase should be. My girlfriend and I want to get into IPSC or something similar but we do want to compete. As I watch reviews on guns I am considering I sometimes hear "not really a competition gun" but then they say "but it really shines in IPSC". Are they talking about competition being a stationary shooting. I am considering 3 possibly 4 guns. I do not want to have to invest a bunch of money in modifications to a gun so I want to shoot out of the box. I like the baby eagle, the cz 75 Phantom, the cz 75 Omega (haven't tried it) and the Glock 34 (haven't tried it). All seem to be excellent guns, I like the heft of the Baby Eagle and the price is crazy good, the Phantom is very nice as well and price is excellent as well. The omega is a couple hundred more as is the glock. I want reliable, shootable, fun and something I don't have to give a gun smith a bunch of money to make it shootable. I know I'm comparing composite and metal.

My girlfriend has decided on the cz 75 sp-01 shadow and I would like something different than hers. Both of us will be shooting 9mm.

Douglas
 
Any gun is fine as long as it's reliable and safe.

You pick the gun you like, and then you use it in competition. CZ shadow, baby eagle, they're all going to be fine for IPSC, IDPA or most other competition shooting sports. Are they the absolute best that will allow you to test your abilities to the limit and squeeze out every last little advantage over your competitors?

Maybe not, but is that really your desire from a handgun? I doubt it very much. If you like it, and feel comfortable with it, that's all that's really important.

(and maybe availability of spare parts)
 
The only Glock I have tried is the 17 in a .40 and I really didn't like it much, I can't see myself enjoying a day of shooting it. The Baby Eagle however was awesome but well used (like really really really well used) but I shot it rather well for my second time with a handgun. I still have a lot of time to figure it out, pal courses seem to conflict with our schedule with the kids so it may be January now before we take the course then the girl friend is back to school for about 6 months.
 
Ive been trying to find "the" gun for me and after about 20 different handguns I found my calling, the cz line :)
Ive been shooting a cz shadow in ipsc production since june and I can tell you it's a blast. I recently purchased a cz 75 single action to use in ipsc standard.

I LUVZ CZ'S

get a cz and be happy lol. For the cz 75 omega "fyi" it uses a different type of trigger mechanism that might be a pain in the bu* to do a trigger job on it.
 
The shadow I believe is legal for idpa it's just you have to make it pass the weight test from what I understand.
 
try all the guns you can. talk to HungryBeagle as he will give you great advice and is in your neck of the woods. i also believe that you can to Coquitalm to DVC Ventures and rent guns there from Kelly. When you find a gun you like check for the availability of mags. if you can't get 5 or 6 for the gun then it is probably a good one to say away from. the big thing through is HAVE FUN.
 
BCOrchidGuy said:
.....The Baby Eagle however was awesome but well used (like really really really well used).....
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Walter Hornby said:
.....i also believe that you can to Coquitalm to DVC Ventures and rent guns there from Kelly......
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He obviously already found the one at DVC. His description fits the poor thing to a "T" :D Despite it having been to hell and back more than once that gun continues to shoot well and is a superb indicator that IWI builds a tough gun.

The guys that are saying to check the rule books are spot on. It's not that a gun is a good competition gun or not but what class it fits into. A 1911 is a great gun but for IPSC it automatically moves you to Standard and puts you up against guys with big mag wells and fancy trigger jobs and pretty much custom guns other than running iron sights. In IDPA a 1911 is much more useable in stock form. They don't allow the sort of mods that IPSC allows.

For IPSC a lot of folks prefer to stay in Production where a stock gun can do just fine.

As for the CZ Omega I'd look at the reviews. A lot of them have come back with the users not really likeing the trigger feel with the Omega action. If you go back to DVC they have a CZ P-07 with the Omega and a Shadow. Shoot them both back to back and see for yourself if the trigger pull of the Omega action puts you off or not.
 
For IPSC if you plan on shooting in Production, make sure whatever gun you choose is on the list of acceptable guns. I believe IDPA also has requirements for acceptable guns as well, but I don't know the details. Something to keep in mind.
 
CZ's are great guns...make sure the model matches the discipline you'll be shooting or one that will work well with both ipsc and idpa and enjoy... but try other guns too, if have a chance to.....
 
Thanks for all the replies folks, yes I have been to DVC and yes that's the Baby Eagle that wow'd me. We've shot the Shadow 9mm, a glock .40 the baby eagle and a Sig, so far the Baby Eagle was my fav but the Shadow was sure nice too, I'd have to compare them side by side. Wantsalls told me today to consider the CZ-07 Duty, apparently it's a wicked good gun as well but it has the Omega trigger and yes I've read questionable reviews about it. I guess the class I'd compete in would be production, I used to shoot traditional archery instinctive and could shoot a pie plate out of the air with an arrow. I like simple I guess.

Thanks again for the replies

Douglas
 
Screw it get an Open gun from the start like you are going to in the end anyway...

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D, I'm not sure I can afford the table that beauty is sitting on never mind the gun. Mardig88, I went over the list 3 times today and I completely missed that the 34 is not approved. Thanks for pointing that out. The barrel length is 5.32 and trigger pull is 4.5 so it's out on those two counts. Thanks again.
 
if you're looking for more guns to play with, swing by an S&D night at Abby, we have all sorts of guns you can try.
 
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