Cooey 12g 840 model help
- Thread starter BrownR
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Well - The court will decide. Do you want to roll the dice?
In most cases, those old Winchesters are worth more in original condition and a cold blue will only make it worse.
If you want new guns, buy new guns. Old guns that show honest use are cool and tell a story of those who owned them before you.
- Location
- Western Manitoba
I do not know what you have access to - out here on prairies is common for most farms to have a metal "junk pile" - could root through that to find something that is similar condition to your Cooey - a length of pipe - an old tool - try to re-finish that thing - see how it turns out - you gain a bit of experience and do not risk an "old gun" if it does not turn out. I have an elderly Mauser made in 1896 - only the lord knows how it got to Nova Scotia, from where I bought it - but it was pretty grim condition - I think that was the one that was not much at all for light coming down the bore - there was a LOT of rust on that one. And there was a surprising-to-me amount of original bluing under that rust.
You will discover there are many ways to remove rust - some do a lot of damage to the piece - like sandpaper and grindstone - consider to make up a "reverse electrolysis" tank - if you have the things - I used "washing soda" from Home Hardware store as electrolyte - not "baking soda". My power source was a 6 volt battery charger - too much jam, I think - museums use much lower voltages than that - and take weeks to get the job done - but they get to read scrolls and stampings that were there, within the rust, that abrasives would have removed.
You will discover there are many ways to remove rust - some do a lot of damage to the piece - like sandpaper and grindstone - consider to make up a "reverse electrolysis" tank - if you have the things - I used "washing soda" from Home Hardware store as electrolyte - not "baking soda". My power source was a 6 volt battery charger - too much jam, I think - museums use much lower voltages than that - and take weeks to get the job done - but they get to read scrolls and stampings that were there, within the rust, that abrasives would have removed.
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- Location
- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
I could be wrong, I used to pay more attention to the rules lol but if you cut the barrel too short your basically making a prohibited device. You can have a manual action barrel manufactured to any length provided the firearm meets OAL requirements, like with an 8.5”/12.5/14” barreled Grizzly. You can’t just take a 28” vent rib barrel for an 870 and cut it shorter than 18”, the cut barrel is the prohib item in itself.
I have a Cooey 84 with 2 barrels, one is a factory 30” barrel and the other is the original barrel that’s been cut to 19”. Still legal and more than meets OAL requirements, it’s a nice length as well for walking around the bush.
I told him I’d give him 25$ for it, so I’m gonna bring it home one day and see how it goes for cleaning it up. Some cold bluing And how much if any damage is there lol. Well if I leave the stock and just cut the barrel down to the over all length at 28” I should be fine 
Also be a good test piece before I redo my Winchester so it turns out better lol. I still have to sand down the stock before laying some new stain
Also be a good test piece before I redo my Winchester so it turns out better lol. I still have to sand down the stock before laying some new stain
- Location
- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
Well if I leave the stock and just cut the barrel down to the over all length at 28” I should be fine
Here’s what mine looks like with the 19” cut barrel, pretty handy size. Just need to find the motivation to silver solder some front and rear sights to the barrel, as with all short barrel shotguns it shoot a high POI due to barrel length. My plan was thread it for chokes as well as sights and have a fun single shot truck gun for slugs and road chickens.
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Here’s what mine looks like with the 19” cut barrel, pretty handy size. Just need to find the motivation to silver solder some front and rear sights to the barrel, as with all short barrel shotguns it shoot a high POI due to barrel length. My plan was thread it for chokes as well as sights and have a fun single shot truck gun for slugs and road chickens.
Oh that looks really nice !! I love the colour, furniture look awesome !! Over all length for 19” don’t look to bad at all. The wood on this one I’ll be purchasing has stippling on the buttstock, thats gonna be the tricky spot to clean and re stain it
- Location
- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
Yeah it’s a fun one, I like having the long and short barrels. It’s obviously been refinished and has an aftermarket butt pad, I’d say cold blued at some point as well. I wasn’t concerned with finding one in original state as long as it was in good condition, it perfect for what I want it for. The OAL with the 19” barrel is nice, well balanced. The receiver is so short that you get a nice compact length without getting into real short barrel lengths, which is nice because I couldn’t cut it down anymore than an inch anyway.
It sure the hell does. You can cut to a min. of 18" , but I would cut at 20 inch .
If the bore is good , then this is worth redoing , IF you want a project,
But if you are new at this and thinking to buy it and fix to make some money, don't bother.
I like stuff like this and have the tools to do it, been at it for 60+ yrs.
You can uses anything for lub when sanding , light oil, WD 40, water, as long as you wipe it dry after.
When you blue, has to be clean and no oil or finger prints on the steel
Brake clean makes a good degreaser.
I have used a bead blaster( sand blaster with glass beads) for this type of thing, works good.
But if bore is rust , pitted, walk away unless you want parts , or just hang on the wall.
remember if working or a rusted glob of rust, legally it's still a gun, unless you weld the barrel to the receiver.
- Location
- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
She’s rough but I bet things will clean up a lot with some steel wool and oil, wtf is with the gouges down the barrel? I mean it’s just a smooth bore but that ain’t right.
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- Location
- Winnipeg, Manitoba
Nope
- Location
- Western Manitoba
The marks appear to be in the forcing cone - is a tapered area between chamber and barrel, I think. As if someone tapped in a metal tube or a metal bolt to clear something out of there?? Most of the shotgun barrels that I look through should be shiny clean - chamber, forcing cone and barrel - spotless - like a good mirror.
