X2 on KevinB's well said, you hit the nail on the head. IM_Luger; this is not an attack or insult of any manner, however I do believe the bulk of your issues with numerous pistols (H&Ks, SIGs, seen beefs with those two from you this week) has a financial base. You see, many of us here spend more money on firearms than we do on cars, simply because that is what we enjoy. Whether the gun costs $6500 or $650 is of little consequence at times so long as the price represents the fair market value and we believe the firearm to be desirable. I see merits in the guns such as the H&K P7; another pistol you attacked based on price. If I like the gun, I'll look into it further and decide how I can afford it; my point is I base my decisions on the firearm not the price tag. There's nothing wrong with spending within one's budget and shopping as such; but don't bash a gun simply on price tag alone, that's unjustified. My sentiment is if you think it costs too much, don't buy it, others will. If the price represents a fair market value (this has much more to it than simply what you "think" the gun is worth, such as supply and demand, import difficulties etc that quite reasonably inflate the price) then there's nothing to complain about and maligning the firearm is just plain backwards. Like the guys who talk down the G36, would I buy one? Probably not right now, yes, due to the price. However I never bash the gun based on price as given our market I feel the price they command is justified; just because it doesn't fit into my budget doesn't mean I talk it down to feel better about my AR, M96, SIG, whatever...