Covering up engraver marks

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Hi all,

I bought this Remington 870 shotgun and it has engraving marks all over it by the previous owner. It looks like they were done with one of those engraving pens and its pretty terrible. I would really like to reblue this shotgun to a near black finish, or even a jet black finish but dont want these engraving marks showing through or at least as little as possible. I do want to save the origional factory markings (and the serial number obviously) so i am looking for suggestions on the best way to cover up the markings...

Fill them in with JB weld?
Put spot welds and grind down?
I'm not really sure if this can be done or how to go about doing it so any suggestion is appreciated.

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That's pretty awful alright.

Problem is that just about anything you do will take the bluing differently than the rest of the metal. Wouldn't recommend welding on something like that unless you really knew what you are doing with a tig either.

Hard to tell how deep it is but filing, sanding and polishing are probably the best answer. Might just not be feasible.
 
You can't blue JB weld but you could use it to fill that abomination and then use a paint like product such as armour coat or its like to refinish the receiver. I can see no way of bluing this gun without including the Bubba art.
 
That's pretty horrible, and there's no cost effective way to make these totally go away, but here's what I'd do: carefully draw file to get the high spots off as the tool they used sort of puckers the metal up. Spot sandblast to sort of erase the writing. Parkerize.
Or draw file to remove the high spots. Skin coat with automotive bondo. Sand flat. Paint with one of the currently fashionable firearms paints.
 
Sand or file flat then silver solder in the low spots, re level it by gluing a sheet of fine Emery cloth to a pain of glass for a flat surface, with in a Circular motion sand down any high spots use some light oil like sewing machine oil. Don't know if rebluing it will hid the marking ( never have blued solder ) so painting it may be your only opion . There are stickers kits that you can get nice results with . Best of luck pictures would be nice , of your progress:popCorn::wave:

Just had a thought it will not work on a aluminum ( soldering that is !!) So automotive fillers is the way to go .
 
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Wow. That really sucks. It is too bad it is so close to the serial number and other markings you had wanted to keep. I agree with the knocking down the high spots and filling in the lows. As for coatings, you could then paint it, put a gun wrap on it, or easy as was mentioned velcro the registration card on the side.:rolleyes: lol.
 
Just got to thinking. What would Cerekote be like for a finish? Would it cover it up after removing the high spots?
 
Strip the receiver, surface grind bubba's handy work off - if the serial number is still visible great, if not remark it.
Then beadblast everything and send it out for fresh hot blueing.

As mentioned above, it comes down to what you are willing to spend and/or put up with.

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OP, If that were my shotgun I wouldn't waste my time on it as far as cosmetics go. It is a utility rifle and a shooter that just happens to be very good at what it was designed to do.

It will cost you more to fix that mess than it's worth.

If you insist on refinishing this mess, this is what I have done in the past.

First, take the shotgun apart until you have a bare receiver.

Second, get a sanding block and some coarse paper.

Third, sand off the high ridges of the engraving.

Fourth, find a filler you like, something that won't shrink and is metal based such as Titanium Putty or something similar. Smear it into the engraving so that it is slightly high. Don't worry about the overflow.

Five, Let the filled action sit for 72 hours. Yes, the instructions don't call for that much buttttttt they don't tell you that the curing process continues for 72 hours and there WILL be shrinkage.

Six, Sand everything down again with medium coarse paper.

Seven, go to Canadian Tire or any Automotive supply store and get a can of flat black or whichever color you like engine enamel spray paint. Several light coats with a few hours in between will give you a very durable finish. The reason you want to go LIGHT with the spray paint is that the factory stamps will still be visible.

I have done this with a few such messes in the past and it gives a pretty durable finish that needs to be looked at closely to notice. It's very easy to repair if it wears away as well.

Very cheap fix that will look good if you do your part and don't get impatient or lazy.

In North America we have been seeing more painted rifles and shotguns than used to be the fashion. Not a thing wrong with paint that's been done properly. If you want to make sure the paint is cured well enough, put the painted receiver into your oven at 200F for an hour. Make sure any overspray has been cleaned out of the pin holes and interior first. If you get a gunsmith to do this it will cost a couple of hundred dollars. If you do it yourself, under $40. You can likely find a used receiver for a couple of hundred.

If I were going to keep the shotgun for my own use, I would leave it as is. If it just has to be perfect, I would be looking for another receiver as mentioned. If you can't stand the present look and can't afford another receiver, the above treatment works. I've done this to rimfire and centerfire rifles as well but only for personal use.
 
I'VE GOT IT!

Go to Wikipedia and create a page for Cecil Fielding. Make it AWESOME. Born to famous parents. Raised by wolves. Fought in all 3 world wars. Saved a kitten once... you know the drill. Be sure to include a shopped photo of Cecil holding the gun, with his foot on a recently taken lion/mammoth/hitler.

Then put up the celebrity shotgun on the EE for TEN TIMES what you paid for it, with a link to the wiki!


You're welcome.
 
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I'VE GOT IT!

Go to Wikipedia and create a page for Cecil Fielding. Make it AWESOME. Born to famous parents. Raised by wolves. Fought in all 3 world wars. Saved a kitten once... you know the drill. Be sure to include a shopped photo of Cecil holding the gun, with his foot on a recently taken lion/mammoth/hitler.

Then put up the celebrity shotgun on the EE for TEN TIMES what you paid for it, with a link to the wiki!


You're welcome.
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That is probably better than my idea, which is pretty much an angle grinder and a rattle can of Tremclad. Then use the living hell out of it, touch up paint as required.

Another option is to do a bigger and uglier overwork of the 'art', with a Dremel tool. Maybe an image search for Bad Tattoos will give you some artwork ideas.


Cheers
Trev
 
I would sand/file/scrape just where the engraving is until it's all gone. Sometimes it's not nearly as deep as you suspect. Even if you do end up with some low spots, having it blued with low spots will look much better than that awful scribbling.
 
Well at least we know Copper Cliff's resident artist.
Could be worse..could say Chemmy on it.....��
 
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