Coyote bounty ineffective, Green party says

I think that all the Green party members can be put to work guarding the herds. Give them pointy sticks and whistles to scare the yotes away. Also, the government can buy a few truck loads of condoms sized for green party members because they would be the right size for a coyote as well. The Greenies can then run through the prairies holding seminars and demo's for the coyotes on how to use birth control.

I think the Green party would go for this because most of them have the time since they are for the most part welfare sucking useless t**ts.
 
What are they complaining about...using greenparty thinking....the more that get killed the more we will have...I see it as a win win situation...:)
 
I assume that yotes have one litter a year? I understand the whole "animal/habitat/capacity" thing, but the fewer females there are in the spring, the fewer litters there will be. Whack them every winter and Bob's yer uncle. I hope to get as many as possible down before the deer drop their kids, which is much more important to me. I read a study from Sweden that said 40% of Roe deer kids were lost to Red Foxes in the first 3 days after birth. I imagine yotes must hit the deer pretty hard so the fewer yotes that make it to spring the better.
 
When they invent coyote-proof fencing, it'll be interesting to see how much land you can fence with it for $360,000.

And if the tax-payer is buying the guard dogs, I can't see them costing less than $1000 each, so that is only 360 fresh meals for the coyote packs.
 
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I can't believe that the Green Party even gets a voice in the news. The one consolation is that they always make themselves sound stupid.
 
perhaps they could spend the $360,000.00 on night scopes and silencers, and hold a lottery draw to outfit as many "varmint control officers" as the 360k will cover.

when the yotes start getting tagged morning, noon, and night the population might start dwindling:)
 
A lot of people vote for the green party, like it or not. That is why they get a voice. If it wasn't for our very old and dysfunctional electorate first past the post parliamentary system that we inherited from the British we would have green MP's. One of the biggest failures to our system was that we did not adopt the mixed member representation system that was proposed and voted on in the last election (could have been 2 elections ago, hard to keep them straight). It was not adapted because the government in power has a vested interest in keeping the system as it is. They deliberately confused the public about what mixed member representation and first past the post mean, so the majority voted to keep our old screwed up first past the post system.

There is much more evidence (scientific, not anecdotal) to show that coyote culls stimulate population growth and are counterproductive. Do some searches here and on the net and have a look. This is not my opinion, but that of many experienced biologists.

Wolf population control can be a challenge in some parts of the country as well. I know that one way that wolf population control has worked is to capture the alpha male and nuder him. This is expensive, not practical in most of Canada, but would probably be more effective than a cull.
 
You realy after wonder about some of these green people. If anyone watched Elizabeth May in the munk debat she evan claimed global warmer was causing much of the AID's problem in Africa. If they ever get in power you will never be able to afford gasoline again.
 
TheTooner said:
When they invent coyote-proof fencing, it'll be interesting to see how much land you can fence with it for $360,000.

And if the tax-payer is buying the guard dogs, I can't see them costing less than $1000 each, so that is only 360 fresh meals for the coyote packs.
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The problem with the fence is it will only work for a month or so. Wait till the tumble weeds pile up and the dirt blows making places to cross. Wait until the first winter and they all get blown over by snow not impeding the Coyotes one bit. Then the thaw in spring will destroy the fence and we will have to spend the money all over again.
 
Dead coyotes don't breed and I doubt there were enough votes in Canada for the Green Party to secure 1 seat. If there were, they still don't deserve a voice.
 
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oneskilledhunter I'm curious was it green biologists that did those studies...
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Actually, I've got a preditor mag that has an article from an old yote killer in Wyoming. They use planes and choppers to shoot them. He checks the uterus for blood spots to indicate the number of pups the females are producing. I think once you get ahead of the curve, culls can be effective, but the first few years, you have to hit them hard.
 
oneskilledshooter said:
Wolf population control can be a challenge in some parts of the country as well. I know that one way that wolf population control has worked is to capture the alpha male and nuder him. This is expensive, not practical in most of Canada, but would probably be more effective than a cull.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but wouldn't one of the other male pack members dominate the old leader as soon as he came back with out his nuts on him?
 
Taken from the Sask Gov't website. They do pay for some fencing and guardian dogs. The Green party needs to be informed better.

http://www.agriculture.gov.sk.ca/Coyote-Control


Saskatchewan Coyote Control Program
On Tuesday, November 10, 2009, Agriculture Minister Bob Bjornerud announced the Saskatchewan Coyote Control Program, a pilot project aimed at reducing coyote predation on Saskatchewan's agricultural land.

Under the program, the provincial government will pay hunters a bounty of $20 per coyote killed. To qualify for this bounty, hunters will have to present evidence to local municipalities to verify the kill, and then submit a declaration to the Ministry of Agriculture in order to receive compensation.

In addition to funding for the Coyote Control Program, the government has a number of measures in place to aid in predation efforts:

•Recent changes to the Environment Farm Plan Program under Growing Forward to allow goat/sheep producers to access 50 per cent funding (up to $10,000) for fencing to protect their livestock from predators. For more information, please visit http://saskpcab.com/environmental-farm-plan.
•The Ministry of Environment has expanded the training program for Conservation Officers so that they can utilize Compound 1080, a poison used in predation efforts.
•The Ministry of Environment offers a guard dog program, where producers can access funding for 50 per cent of the cost for a guardian dog (to a maximum of $100).
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cdnredneck_t3 said:
The problem with the fence is it will only work for a month or so. Wait till the tumble weeds pile up and the dirt blows making places to cross. Wait until the first winter and they all get blown over by snow not impeding the Coyotes one bit. Then the thaw in spring will destroy the fence and we will have to spend the money all over again.
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Yes, I was trying to imply that there is no such fence as will keep coyotes out. I'm sure the livestock that won't be maimed or killed by 18,000 now dead coyotes will be in far greater number than can be saved by spending the $360,000 on fences and/or dogs.
 
TheTooner said:
Yes, I was trying to imply that there is no such fence as will keep coyotes out. I'm sure the livestock that won't be maimed or killed by 18,000 now dead coyotes will be in far greater number than can be saved by spending the $360,000 on fences and/or dogs.
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I agree with you. This is why I hate the internet sometimes. It is hard to tell what someone is saying by only seeing text on a screen.

My point was that if the green party would just step back and think about what they are saying it would not be hard to find the flaws in their logic.
 
The Ministry of Environment offers a guard dog program, where producers can access funding for 50 per cent of the cost for a guardian dog (to a maximum of $100).
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Must be a hell of a dog for $100...do you use them like feeder goldfish to keep the yotes full?
 
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