I feel I can sucessfully co exist with coyotes and if I never see them they are safe from me. But, if they come to my calls, or I see them rabbit hunting, or if the neghbors hounds push them to me in the organised drives they do, they are down.
Coyote Cull Controversy - Your Take?
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lucky07
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lol... we don't want wolves eating our livestock either.
^^^ bahahah That reminds of that old Simpsons episode with the invasive Lizards...The plan was that the lizards were to solve the pigeon problem, then Lisa brings up the problem that now lizards are everywhere... Skinner then proposes they will be bringing gorillas that eat lizards..and then the cold will kill the gorillas.... problem solved! lol
That article from the Ottawa Citizen is kind of frightening....I mean, these things are getting a little too brave... Attacking snowmobiles..
(although the way in which the guy killed the coyote WAS, even in my opinion, a little too brutal..."I broke its legs and it couldn't get away...then I kicked and destroyed it..... ok there Rambo
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That article from the Ottawa Citizen is kind of frightening....I mean, these things are getting a little too brave... Attacking snowmobiles..
(although the way in which the guy killed the coyote WAS, even in my opinion, a little too brutal..."I broke its legs and it couldn't get away...then I kicked and destroyed it..... ok there Rambo
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If I was an animal I would rather die from a hunter than natural causes. A quick death is better than starving to death, disease (mange for coyotes would be awful). I wouldn't want to freeze, get eaten alive by a predator, etc. There is no such thing as a peaceful death in nature, only a hunter can give that.
I was on field work early last summer taking blue tit chicks out of their nests to weigh them and collect other data. The majority of them were not doing well. There were many underweight and starving to death. Some were rotting and still alive and had maggots eating them. For those poor chicks we stomped on them so they wouldn't continue to suffer while rotting. Some animal rights groups would call me a murder for doing that but there is no doubt that those chicks were glad to die. I think it would be cruel if we had left them to rot alive. This is just one example of many stories I have of witnessing animals suffering naturally.
I hunt and it is a quick death, there is low impact on the environment where these animal group tofu eating folks kill many species by ruining their habitat for their soy crops. You don't see too many tofu animals running around to take them with little environmental damage.
I guess I got off topic but if there is overpopulation of coyotes, the population will eventually crash as a result of disease and starvation and they will suffer more.
I was on field work early last summer taking blue tit chicks out of their nests to weigh them and collect other data. The majority of them were not doing well. There were many underweight and starving to death. Some were rotting and still alive and had maggots eating them. For those poor chicks we stomped on them so they wouldn't continue to suffer while rotting. Some animal rights groups would call me a murder for doing that but there is no doubt that those chicks were glad to die. I think it would be cruel if we had left them to rot alive. This is just one example of many stories I have of witnessing animals suffering naturally.
I hunt and it is a quick death, there is low impact on the environment where these animal group tofu eating folks kill many species by ruining their habitat for their soy crops. You don't see too many tofu animals running around to take them with little environmental damage.
I guess I got off topic but if there is overpopulation of coyotes, the population will eventually crash as a result of disease and starvation and they will suffer more.
I fully agree.... as long as the kill is quick and clean, the animal suffers less than rotting, having its throat ripped out by a predator, freezing, etc. As for that Poster.... I don't know the regulations fully for Ontario (I have not been coyote hunting), but instead of PAYING, aren't people supposed to receive a bounty for a coyote carcass (that's been hunted)?
I mean, would people not prefer to just get cash, instead of giving up the coyote and having to pay to be in a draw?
Turkeyslayer 1300
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I hunt occasionally with the President of the Osgoode fish,game and conservation club. This "cull" was brought about to combat high coyote numbers in the Greely Osgoode area. After years of complaining and doing nothing the unbanites who live in the area are now complaining about the best way to resolve their problem. As with most issues it has become a city vs country thing. However anyone with common sense can see that the only way you can live harmoniously with coyotes is if they are lining a coat or hat.
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- London, Ontario
The lets coexsit with _____ (fill in a dangours animal here) people make me laugh. Ever seen that moive with the dude who LOVES bears? He goes out into the wild, names em, lives REAL close to some grizzlies and guess what happen to him AND his girlfriend in the end? They were both eatten, true story.
Grizzlyman.... I have it downloaded, but haven't watched it yet. The dude is all "I would die for these animals! I would...Die..FOR THESE ANIMALS....."
Got his wish, didn't he? Leave the damn wild animals in the wild..they won't want to be your friend...like the Guy who got eaten killed by his "pet" tiger a few days ago... Smart move there
Keeping a caged tiger, then entering its pen to feed it...
Mike Oxbig
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Pile em high! They are huge problem in a lot of places.
Mike Oxbig
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I'm not saying they should be harmed in any way other than a 55 grainer in the lung.Dude, I love the fact that you have an animal rescue link in your signature
The populations throughout Canada have exploded in the past few years and they are getting way to brazen and need the fear of MAN put back into them big time. Here in the city they are real brazen and there's no way legally dispatch the problem ones.
I'm not saying they should be harmed in any way other than a 55 grainer in the lung.
The populations throughout Canada have exploded in the past few years and they are getting way to brazen and need the fear of MAN put back into them big time. Here in the city they are real brazen and there's no way legally dispatch the problem ones.
HAHAH Best response ever!
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Kill them all, let God sort them out.
Well ok, kill most of them. lol
Well ok, kill most of them. lol
I live right out side Osgoode (200 meters from the 3 Km sign), and I didnt find out about this until yesterday. I looked it up, but I cant find the official rules anywhere. I plan on shooting some yotes this winter, but a bounty should definitely be made. I remeber my grandpa telling me there was a bounty on may years ago, 25 dollars a coyote. He viewed this as a miracle from God, as he had just lost his job, and had 4 children ( all under 13). He simply topped up the truck, and drove around, shooting them in field from the side of the road. One rich dairy farm paid 35 each. IN one day of driving, he shot 21, and at the dairy farm he shot 30 in total. He hunted for a week, and got a job by the end of a month.
Imagine that: get your wife/self/kids ___________(fill in what is required/wanted) though some dead vermin!
I say in this rescission, the Ontario government make a new job :Coyote culler. $20 per yote, minimum 200 job opeings per WMU. What do you thing of that?
Imagine that: get your wife/self/kids ___________(fill in what is required/wanted) though some dead vermin!
I say in this rescission, the Ontario government make a new job :Coyote culler. $20 per yote, minimum 200 job opeings per WMU. What do you thing of that?
Maybe coyote hunters are causing the over-population problem. More pups are being born because hunting them requires the animals to breed more to sustain their population at a level nature would support.
It is counter-intuitive, but the studies do show a population increase as a result of a cull. I contend that a moratorium on coyote hunting would result in a population decrease.
Similar phenomena occur in nature, like why is the human birth rate in the 3rd world way higher than in North America, where the resources exist to support more people?
You can't outsmart mother nature, Mr. Dinosaur.
Like Raised said, go ahead and kill'em for enjoyment, but don't pretend you are going to control the population.
It is counter-intuitive, but the studies do show a population increase as a result of a cull. I contend that a moratorium on coyote hunting would result in a population decrease.
Similar phenomena occur in nature, like why is the human birth rate in the 3rd world way higher than in North America, where the resources exist to support more people?
You can't outsmart mother nature, Mr. Dinosaur.
Like Raised said, go ahead and kill'em for enjoyment, but don't pretend you are going to control the population.
lucky07
CGN frequent flyer
poster on page 3, it's pretty simple. Kill it and haul it's ass to the old coop. oh... and you need a toonie.
lucky07
CGN frequent flyer
It's not the population we want to control. It's the ones in our back yards we want dead. Most can't shoot in their back yard so we gotta go in the bush where we may or may not be targeting the right ones... but it's a hell of a much better chance than sitting on the couch and waiting until fifi gets eaten.
Where I hunt, Coyotes are welcome. The huge number of deer and elk taken require clean up. A small coyote population would open the door for more grizzly or wolves to move in.
Last year I sat on a hill and through my spotting scope I watched three seperate groups feeding on gut piles 18 animals total. I enjoyed the show and continued hunting.
Two years previous I saw sow and two cubs on a gut puile and decided to go home.
Last year I sat on a hill and through my spotting scope I watched three seperate groups feeding on gut piles 18 animals total. I enjoyed the show and continued hunting.
Two years previous I saw sow and two cubs on a gut puile and decided to go home.
