Coyote Drives

[striker89]

I'm from South Western Ontario, and on my way home from work today there were a bunch of trucks lined up along the road overlooking my parents property for a coyote drive.

My question is do these people just assume they have permission to shoot across our fields? Or that the people pushing the coyotes have permission to access the bush on our property?

Anybody ever participated in one of these?

 

[dutchhunter]

did you ask them .

 

[DarceMegarce]

If your parents have "No Trespassing" signs up around the property line and they are on their property then they better have permission... or else it's trespassing and you can ask them to hunt someplace else. Any land under cultivation is protected by the criminal code of Canada, and I believe that includes woodlots regardless of signage.

 

[NShunter1254]

Should have went and got your gun and joined them,might be a great bunch of gun nutters.

 

[coyote1664]

If they are running dogs, they are going to go where the dogs go. I have been on one hunt with dogs and did not like it.

 

[striker89]

There aren't any signs up to be fair. They just seemed to be cruising around the country side parking along the ditch overlooking someone's field, then after a while they would move down the road a little ways.

I didn't get to talk to them, they left when I pulled in the driveway.

 

[ss1980]

If it were in the States, those truck people would have been shot for trespassing long time ago. Legally shot, that is.

 

[ss1980]

The rules say if they shoot an animal or a bird and it runs into your property, they have the right of servitude to access your property to harvest the game that they shot outside of your property but that ended up on your field.

 

[ontario]

The rules say if they shoot an animal or a bird and it runs into your property, they have the right of servitude to access your property to harvest the game that they shot outside of your property but that ended up on your field.

That is untrue. It does not matter if you have a 200" whitetail die on a property you don't have permission to hunt, the landowner can still deny you permission to retrieve it.

 

[Drillbit]

That is untrue. It does not matter if you have a 200" whitetail die on a property you don't have permission to hunt, the landowner can still deny you permission to retrieve it.

Ahh, you know the story about the kid and the typical 213 5/8 whitetail too

 

[coyote1664]

The rules say if they shoot an animal or a bird and it runs into your property, they have the right of servitude to access your property to harvest the game that they shot outside of your property but that ended up on your field.

nope, it does not give you a license to trespass, need land owner permission.

 

[Mount Sweetness]

They cruise looking for fresh tracks and scan the fields. If they have guys out walking, then the guys cruising are used to block the yotes and keep them in the block so they don't cross the road and run into the next county..

 

[daveg01]

We do deer and coyote drives occasionally. It can be pretty effective especially if you know where the preferred "exits" are. Of course we have permission on all the farms we do this on.

 

[redneckchris]

I read a article in the Ontario out of doors a few issues ago which explained the rules to follow regarding trespassing and no just because your injured game goes on someone else's property it does not give you the right to go after it. This article should be avaible on the websight

 

[Trotter]

The rules say if they shoot an animal or a bird and it runs into your property, they have the right of servitude to access your property to harvest the game that they shot outside of your property but that ended up on your field.

What "rules" >>>> Can you cite Case law? Provincial or Federal please.

 

[FiringSquad]

Drives are stupid and dangerous. You have a bunch of idiots walking through the bush towards more idiots. Then when they see a deer/dog/whatever, they all start shooting toward each other. This is not hunting, this is no different than cavemen driving buffalo over cliffs.

 

[rooster22]

Tresspassing for the purpose of hunting, in Ontario is $150.00 fine

This problem happened to me during deer rifle season Nov-2012. Two truck loads of men crossed my land, (without permission) to gain access to crown land behind my property. There is an access trail through my land to get to the crown. I did post it all summer and fall that the road would be closed for deer season. I did allow access to the crown land prior to this incident during the non hunting season. To make a long story short, I confronted the men on their way out on my property. There was a lot of discussion. Point blank I told them if you come back your tresspassing. They basically told me they thought the trail was a road allowance and would cross may land when they want.

I had no choice but to call the MNR. And in return the MNR talked to the hunters. The MNR at thier liberty could of given each hunter a min of $150.00 fine for tresspassing for the purpose of hunting. And as well taken thier game. Heavier and more damaging charges could of a also be laid but this was bare minumum .
Anyway they got a warning because the trail was not clearly marked the rain had damaged the signs. So it is clearly posted now, and next time there will be more than just a warning.
So the moral of the story is if you don't want people shooting up your land and tresspassing, POST POST POST IT ! ! !, I can't make myself any clearer

 

[bush1]

What "rules" >>>> Can you cite Case law? Provincial or Federal please.

Don't need to cite anything for you.

Look at the post above yours and look it up yourself.

Its amazing that there are so many hunters around in Ontario that don't know this. You absolutely need the landowners permission to retrieve game or to find wounded game on their private property. You can get the local CO to help you convince the landowner but the CO can't force the landowner to give permission.

 

[rooster22]

By the way I would permit anyone to access my land to harvest a wounded or dead animal. As long as it did travel from another property and not shot on my land in the first place. But I prefer to know whats happening and permission is seeked before doing so.
The thought of a stranger on my land with a firearm, that does not know where I could be at any given moment is the one thing land owners can't tolerate.
If you want the respect of the land owner and possibly make a friend, GET PERMISSION FIRST !!!! before you access someone's land. Especailly if your hunting or tracking!!!

 

[daveg01]

Drives are stupid and dangerous. You have a bunch of idiots walking through the bush towards more idiots. Then when they see a deer/dog/whatever, they all start shooting toward each other. This is not hunting, this is no different than cavemen driving buffalo over cliffs.

Whatever. I'm not an idiot. You can do it your way, I can do it mine. We are very careful and have established rules about where we can fire. WE NEVER SHOT TOWARDS PEOPLE - EVER. It is hunting and it can be very effective. Must be hard living way up in that ivory tower...